Miliband rules out being prime minister ever

[tomtomagain]

Which polls? They're all showing Labour short of the seats it needs, with the Tories pulling ahead in virtually every predicted outcome.

I agree. If Osborne puts in a half-decent budget on Wednesday then there's every chance that the Tories will start pulling ahead over the next 50 days.

Milliband just doesn't have the personality. I just don't see him connecting with enough English voters.
Now that he stupidly revealed himself as having two kitchen's ( only 0.7% of people have two kitchens apparently ) he's lost his ability to call the Tories "posh". He's hardly a man of the people.

[Zero Liability]

Also, most of them are already perceived to be narcissists, if not outright psychopaths (e.g. Shapps strikes me as one), something which is probably true. Without the charm to cover it up, it becomes transparent. Miliband's performance in front of the CBI when it was questioning him was incredibly disdainful and awkward, and these are important people. He just hasn't got the right stuff for it, and he has antagonised his own party to a tremendous degree.

[malvolio]

All this whoop-di-doo for SNP puzzles me. Why on Earth would the UK vote for a party whose avowed intention is to divert the bulk of the UK's GNP to 15% of its population? The Scots may love them - at lest, those who can't be bothered to think do - but the rest of the UK views them with a mixture of horror and hilarity.

Ditto UKIP. Party of the deluded, stuffed with the 21st Century edition of Colonel Blimps.

Ditto Lib Dems - about to disappear is a cloud of half truths, downright lies and total vacuity.

My money would be on a minority Tory government right now, and let the Commons sort out the trickier votes democratically. Followed by a further GE inside two years so the clowns who got it wrong this time can have another go.

[TestMangler]

All this whoop-di-doo for SNP puzzles me. Why on Earth would the UK vote for a party whose avowed intention is to divert the bulk of the UK's GNP to 15% of its population? The Scots may love them - at lest, those who can't be bothered to think do - but the rest of the UK views them with a mixture of horror and hilarity.

Ditto UKIP. Party of the deluded, stuffed with the 21st Century edition of Colonel Blimps.

Ditto Lib Dems - about to disappear is a cloud of half truths, downright lies and total vacuity.

My money would be on a minority Tory government right now, and let the Commons sort out the trickier votes democratically. Followed by a further GE inside two years so the clowns who got it wrong this time can have another go.

How can that be ? Scotland is a massive drain on UK resources and oil is worth 'nothing' according Minestrone and Alistair Darling.

[TykeMerc]

Yeah locking out most of the Scottish electorate will eliminate the SNP, what a utter nugget.

Democracy can't be overridden just because you don't like the outcome. With a hung parliament the SNP are going to have major power.

You talk of Democracy while pointing out that the SNP who are unashamedly totally anti Britain and only want to split the Union will hold Parliament to ransom?

So the elected members who represent an entire 15% of the UK electorate (if they ALL showed up to vote) will control the UK, how exactly is that a democracy?

[malvolio]

How can that be ? Scotland is a massive drain on UK resources and oil is worth 'nothing' according Minestrone and Alistair Darling.

Like I said, policies for the hard of thinking.

Dunno about you but I'm not too impressed at my taxes paying for free prescriptions and university fees for someone else. Put SNP anywhere near being able to dictate terms and that will get worse.

[Unix]

You talk of Democracy while pointing out that the SNP who are unashamedly totally anti Britain and only want to split the Union will hold Parliament to ransom?

So the elected members who represent an entire 15% of the UK electorate (if they ALL showed up to vote) will control the UK, how exactly is that a democracy?

They wont control it but they will get a say which is right and proper, the Scottish people deserve to have a voice after all didn't the rUK tell us we were better off together. Be careful what you wish for tulips about to get real.

[jamesbrown]

My money would be on a minority Tory government right now

That's because you're looking at this through Tory-tinted specs. If you were to step back and evaluate the most likely outcome, you'd see that a Tory minority Gov't is incredibly unlikely because it won't get through the Queen's Speech. While it may be difficult for the aggregate left to form a coalition or even confidence and supply, it will be even more difficult for them to allow a Tory PM.

[TestMangler]

Like I said, policies for the hard of thinking.

Dunno about you but I'm not too impressed at my taxes paying for free prescriptions and university fees for someone else. Put SNP anywhere near being able to dictate terms and that will get worse.

Were you more impressed when there was a Labour Government in power in Scotland and your money was spunked away on nothing and changed nothing for the people it was spent on ? I know which I prefer

Oh and we get free business rates on a single premises up to an RV of £8000, which helps real businesses.

[malvolio]

That's because you're looking at this through Tory-tinted specs. If you were to step back and evaluate the most likely outcome, you'd see that a Tory minority Gov't is incredibly unlikely because it won't get through the Queen's Speech. While it may be difficult for the aggregate left to form a coalition or even confidence and supply, it will be even more difficult for them to allow a Tory PM.

No, I'm talking the pragmatic view that the man in the street is being presented with a selection of potential leaders, none of whom have any credibility, but at least one of whom has done the job: badly, I agree, but nobody in their right mind wants Millipede in charge of anything. Scots will vote SNP, traditionalists will vote Labour, every one else will mostly go Tory when faced with a choice of them, UKIP and Lib Dem (we can ignore the minority parties since they only get votes from the same people anyway).

Therefore, since we are stuck with constituency boundaries that don't align to the population (another, serious Lib Dem act of sabotage for petty political purposes, remember), we inevitably get to a Tory party with the most seats but not with enough to form a majority