Miliband rules out being prime minister ever

[tomtomagain]

How would an Opposition and Shadow Cabinet be formed for the House of Commons? Wouldn't PMQs be a bit dull?

It certainly would be a bit dull.

But neither party can be seen to give away big concessions to a minority party without severely damaging themselves.

I wouldn't put it past them to come to some arrangement ...

[Unix]

It certainly would be a bit dull.

But neither party can be seen to give away big concessions to a minority party without severely damaging themselves.

I wouldn't put it past them to come to some arrangement ...

If they did it would be the end of both parties. They would lose most their seats at the next election.

[MicrosoftBob]

Kitchen Sink Devo .... Depends on whether they ( Labour ) would also push for devolvement of powers to the English regions at the same time. Otherwise they will risk further alienating the English and Welsh voters.

Alienating English and Welsh voters seems to be their main objective, and the SNPs

[Zero Liability]

The tories are out bar a miracle now if the polls are to be believed. It will be Labour propped up by a SNP/Lib dem/Green etc informal agreement. By 2020 we will be up to our eyeballs in debt again and Scotland will be independent.

HTH

Which polls? They're all showing Labour short of the seats it needs, with the Tories pulling ahead in virtually every predicted outcome.

[tomtomagain]

Yeah locking out most of the Scottish electorate will eliminate the SNP, what a utter nugget.

Democracy can't be overridden just because you don't like the outcome. With a hung parliament the SNP are going to have major power.

Of course it wouldn't eliminate the SNP.

But Labour cannot afford to be seen to be controlled by the SNP at the expense of the English ( and Welsh ) as that would wipe them out in their remaining constituencies.

Con-Lab coalition wouldn't be "Undemocratic". As a majority of the UK's voters would have voted for it. Which is democratic.

Democracy can't be overridden just because you don't like the outcome.

Absolutely right. 55% NO. 45% yes.

[Unix]

Which polls? They're all showing Labour short of the seats it needs, with the Tories pulling ahead in virtually every predicted outcome.

General Election 2015 poll tracker: Labour and Conservatives neck-and-neck - Telegraph

[jamesbrown]

Ed Miliband rules out Labour coalition with SNP: Politics Live blog | Politics | The Guardian

Wait a second, he's only ruled out being in coalition with the SNP, which was always the least likely of the two possibilities; confidence and supply being the most likely. A LabSNP arrangement, probably requiring others on the same confidence and supply basis, is still the most likely outcome.

[Zero Liability]

General Election 2015 poll tracker: Labour and Conservatives neck-and-neck - Telegraph

It doesn't mean the Tories are out. It means Labour's delusions of an assured victory are, however. Here is a summary of the polls to date:

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/9288

If anything, this election is going to prove very difficult to "predict", to the extent that these polls can even do that.

Tory-Labour coalition. It's the only sensible choice for the two main parties.

Can't let UKIP near the levers of power ... they'll destroy our relationship with our biggest trading partner.

Can't let SNP near the levers of power ... they'll destroy our country.

2 Year Con-Lab partnership ... allow time for the economy to fully recover and for the minority parties to fade.

Based on mere supposition of how the EU would react, and on the assumption that the UK chose to leave, at any rate. It's all conjecture. I don't think immigration or the EU more generally are going to fade as issues, and I don't see the economy fully "recovering" as this is another credit-fuelled "recovery", for which the conservatives can only take partial credit. It could easily go the other way in the next few years, particularly given the structural issues facing the US, EU, Japanese and Chinese economies; and by "structural issues", I mean that their economies are all only performing as well as they are/have done due to easy central bank credit. Not a very good basis to build an economy on and the central banks are losing their limited leeway to continue executing purchases of sovereign debt, especially in Japan. The US' economic statistics, barring the heavily manipulated jobs figures (NFP), are all declining. So the outcome you portray is far from certain, as all these things can affect the UK.

[tomtomagain]

If they did it would be the end of both parties. They would lose most their seats at the next election.

To who though? The SNP might already have the vast majority of the seats in Scotland ( Welcome to your One Party State! ). Going to make those televised Scottish Parliamentary debates look a bit odd.

UKIP are not going to take the majority of the Con/Lab seats in England. The Welsh are going to keep voting Labour.

[Unix]

To who though? The SNP might already have the vast majority of the seats in Scotland ( Welcome to your One Party State! ). Going to make those televised Scottish Parliamentary debates look a bit odd.

UKIP are not going to take the majority of the Con/Lab seats in England. The Welsh are going to keep voting Labour.

No doubt many said that about Labour in Scotland.

Lib dems, Greens and UKIP will take a large share, UKIP already have eaten into their share and as you say Labour look to be decimated in Scotland. No party will get more than 20%.