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Miliband rules out being prime minister ever

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    #51
    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
    And you claim I'm hard of thinking...

    Ignore the SNP bulltulip, go and look at the figures. Compare your mighty O&G and Whisky revenues to those generated by the City, for example. Look up how much non-Scots taxpayers are passing over to you through the Barnett formula.

    And you don't seriously believe anything Millipede says, or that he has any power or ability to deliver anything his unions don't want. If Unison say join with SNP, which is quite feasible, that's what will happen: why else is Blair trying to arrange alternative funding to put the unions off the critical path? Stuff democracy, that went away long ago.
    It's not SNP bulltulip. We're not comparing 'mighty O&G and whisky revenues to those generated by the City'. We're comparing the tax take from Scotland against the rUK.

    You're buying into the crap that Scotland is subsidised.

    BBC News - Daily question: How much does Scotland pay in tax and how much does it spend?

    And that gap is not new. The Scottish government has produced experimental statistics suggesting that Scottish tax receipts have been higher than the UK average in every one of the past 33 years.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Batcher View Post
      It's not SNP bulltulip. We're not comparing 'mighty O&G and whisky revenues to those generated by the City'. We're comparing the tax take from Scotland against the rUK.

      You're buying into the crap that Scotland is subsidised.

      BBC News - Daily question: How much does Scotland pay in tax and how much does it spend?

      And that gap is not new. The Scottish government has produced experimental statistics suggesting that Scottish tax receipts have been higher than the UK average in every one of the past 33 years.
      ... per capita, possibly true. It does not, however , equate to Scotland's expenditure...
      Blog? What blog...?

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        #53
        Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
        Whatever happens? I think you are getting a bit carried away.

        It's going to be an exciting few months.
        Didn't say it wasn't going to be exciting

        There are loads of variations but a grand coalition, a referendum to leave the EU, Cameron back as PM whether due to Milipede or not, Scottish voter's elected MPs being sidelined, EVEL making Scottish MPs 2nd class, etc

        All of these scenarios and more will drive the case for Scottish independence. The SNP hardly has to do anything, the unionist parties are doing all the work for them.

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          #54
          Originally posted by malvolio View Post
          ... per capita, possibly true. It does not, however , equate to Scotland's expenditure...
          Is that an admission that Scotland put more into the pot than takes out?

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            #55
            Originally posted by Zero Liability View Post
            What does this refer to, out of curiosity? I'm not familiar with it.
            Lords reform was part of the coalition agreement. The Tories binned it, and Clegg binned the boundary changes in response. Here's some coverage from the time.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Unix View Post
              Care to expand on that.
              This will make the hardcore anti-English SNP supporters happy.

              Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
              Tory-Labour coalition.
              Is a very possible outcome, because:

              Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
              Well, Germany has what they call a 'Grand Coalition' of the right CDU and the left SPD...Grand coalition (Germany) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
              UK will be stuck in a coalition government system for long. I don't see a party that can get 40% of votes all alone for the next foreseeable future.
              <Insert idea here> will never be adopted because the politicians are in the pockets of the banks!

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                #57
                Originally posted by petergriffin View Post
                This will make the hardcore anti-English SNP supporters happy.
                You don't really know what you are talking about, do you? Have you ever heard any SNP supporter saying anything anti-English? Being pro-Scottish doesn't make someone anti-English.

                There are a lot of SNP supporters who are English.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Batcher View Post
                  Is that an admission that Scotland put more into the pot than takes out?
                  Ermm, no...
                  Blog? What blog...?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
                    All this whoop-di-doo for SNP puzzles me. Why on Earth would the UK vote for a party whose avowed intention is to divert the bulk of the UK's GNP to 15% of its population? The Scots may love them - at lest, those who can't be bothered to think do - but the rest of the UK views them with a mixture of horror and hilarity.

                    Ditto UKIP. Party of the deluded, stuffed with the 21st Century edition of Colonel Blimps.

                    Ditto Lib Dems - about to disappear is a cloud of half truths, downright lies and total vacuity.

                    My money would be on a minority Tory government right now, and let the Commons sort out the trickier votes democratically. Followed by a further GE inside two years so the clowns who got it wrong this time can have another go.
                    Yes vote for the party who has doubled the National Debt.
                    Bent over backwards for the EU.
                    Loves mass immigration.
                    Cut Defence
                    Cut the police.
                    Given away billions in foreign aid.

                    Vote Conservative!

                    If the electorate form the opinion that Labour cannot form a Government then the Tories one and only election strategy of scaremongering disappears.

                    Bring it on.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Flashman View Post
                      Yes vote for the party who has doubled the National Debt.
                      Bent over backwards for the EU.
                      Loves mass immigration.
                      Cut Defence
                      Cut the police.
                      Given away billions in foreign aid.

                      Vote Conservative!

                      If the electorate form the opinion that Labour cannot form a Government then the Tories one and only election strategy of scaremongering disappears.

                      Bring it on.
                      Someone else who has been listening to the propaganda...

                      For example, the National Debt is growing because of the interest payments we are saddled with from Gorgon's total mishandling of our borrowings. Everything else flows from that. If you believe the serious alternative to the Tories are the very people who put us into this god-awful mess in the first place, then there's no point arguing.
                      Blog? What blog...?

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