Miliband rules out being prime minister ever

[Unix]

Someone else who has been listening to the propaganda...

For example, the National Debt is growing because of the interest payments we are saddled with from Gorgon's total mishandling of our borrowings. Everything else flows from that. If you believe the serious alternative to the Tories are the very people who put us into this god-awful mess in the first place, then there's no point arguing.

Now who is spouting propoganda, yes it's all Brown's fault, he caused the Global economic crash. Anyway Tories have had 5 years and have only tinkered around the edges. Get Ed Balls in there he seems competent

[SueEllen]

What does this refer to, out of curiosity? I'm not familiar with it.

linky

Lib dems were trying to make both Houses of Parliament "more democratic" i.e. so that we would have coalition governments like the rest of Europe so if parts of the electorate vote for minor parties then their voice would be heard, but both Tories and Labour didn't want that. (Oddly some of the people who fell for this were those who now vote UKIP, Green etc)

However election predictions indicate that the Tories and Labour are not going to get what they want anyway i.e. traditional UK parliamentary politics where one party has a majority

[MicrosoftBob]

. Get Ed Balls in there he seems competent

The only thing Balls would be competent for, is if The Producers ever needed a stand in Hitler impersonator.

[malvolio]

Now who is spouting propoganda, yes it's all Brown's fault, he caused the Global economic crash

Of course he didn't. However, among other things like unsustainable borrowing, he did remove the effective regulatory control regime and replaced it with another toothless quango that allowed the banks to de-capitalise in pursuit of hopeless short term gains (which didn't materialise, but hey...) so that when the crash came they were unable to react to it, needing bail outs from the public purse (i.e. you and me) for which we are still paying.

Anyway Tories have had 5 years and have only tinkered around the edges. Get Ed Balls in there he seems competent

Now I know you are either delusional or another mindless troll. Which is it?

[Unix]

Of course he didn't. However, among other things like unsustainable borrowing, he did remove the effective regulatory control regime and replaced it with another toothless quango that allowed the banks to de-capitalise in pursuit of hopeless short term gains (which didn't materialise, but hey...) so that when the crash came they were unable to react to it, needing bail outs from the public purse (i.e. you and me) for which we are still paying.


Now I know you are either delusional or another mindless troll. Which is it?

Sarcasm, I trust Labour less than the tories, I would actually prefer another Con/Lib coalition or Tory majority just can't see it based on the polls.

[Batcher]

linky

Lib dems were trying to make both Houses of Parliament "more democratic" i.e. so that we would have coalition governments like the rest of Europe so if parts of the electorate vote for minor parties then their voice would be heard, but both Tories and Labour didn't want that. (Oddly some of the people who fell for this were those who now vote UKIP, Green etc)

However election predictions indicate that the Tories and Labour are not going to get what they want anyway i.e. traditional UK parliamentary politics where one party has a majority

Yes, a bit unusual that the Scottish parliament was designed with PR so that no party would have a majority and the Westminster one has FPTP which is designed to have a majority party yet both have flipped to the opposite at the moment.

I think more people would vote if you have a PR system and they can see that their vote would count.

[Ticktock]

Yes, a bit unusual that the Scottish parliament was designed with PR so that no party would have a majority and the Westminster one has FPTP which is designed to have a majority party yet both have flipped to the opposite at the moment.

I think more people would vote if you have a PR system and they can see that their vote would count.

Or alternatively, if all constituencies were of equal sizes then you would know that voting for who you wanted to represent you locally would hold equal weight across the country as a whole.

[Batcher]

Or alternatively, if all constituencies were of equal sizes then you would know that voting for who you wanted to represent you locally would hold equal weight across the country as a whole.

Equal in area or population? That wouldn't be practical either way if you consider Highlands or Orkney & Shetland against Tower Hamlets or Islington for example.

[Batcher]

Precisely. Nothing Milibland said today made any difference, as a formal coalition was extremely unlikely (IIRC, the SNP had all but ruled it out, favouring an informal arrangement, i.e. confidence and supply or vote-by-vote).

Alex Salmond ruled out a coalition with Labour last September.

http://www.newsweek.com/alex-salmond...-labour-290388

[MicrosoftBob]

When he says there will be no SNP ministers in any government he leads, does that mean there might be a different Labour leader if Labour form a coalition ?