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So...anybody ask for any of this?
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Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post<pedant>CC members don't represent the membership - they are representative members rather than member's representatives</pedant>
At least I think that's right
I also don't go with the paranoid view that the "agencies" (that dread, united force... ) will demand you use an FLC. Why would they? Why don't they force everyone to use an umbrella, which would have the same effect and not require HMRC to do anything to collect un-owed taxes.Blog? What blog...?Comment
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Originally posted by malvolio View PostPretty much, although personally I don't have a problem raising views, questions and opinions that I don't actually agree with.
I also don't go with the paranoid view that the "agencies" (that dread, united force... ) will demand you use an FLC. Why would they? Why don't they force everyone to use an umbrella, which would have the same effect and not require HMRC to do anything to collect un-owed taxes.merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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Originally posted by eek View PostBecause as Lisa has pointed out in the past its very hard for agencies to identify which umbrellas are actually umbrellas and which are something else (I'm sure Andy Hallett would confirm that S3 have been caught by that in the past). So currently the safest option for an agency is the limited company with the contractor as a director. An "umbrella" unless properly checked and vetted is a bigger risk...Blog? What blog...?Comment
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Originally posted by malvolio View PostPretty much, although personally I don't have a problem raising views, questions and opinions that I don't actually agree with.
I also don't go with the paranoid view that the "agencies" (that dread, united force... ) will demand you use an FLC. Why would they? Why don't they force everyone to use an umbrella, which would have the same effect and not require HMRC to do anything to collect un-owed taxes.
But you know that - it's been mentioned here a few times, and also on the IPSE forums. If HMRC make life easier for agents if they force you to use an FLC, then that's what they will do.Comment
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Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostHMRC start to force agencies to report financial dealings with Limited companies. HMRC exempt FLCs from the additional reporting requirements. Agencies force contractors to use umbrella or FLC. HMRC win.
But you know that - it's been mentioned here a few times, and also on the IPSE forums. If HMRC make life easier for agents if they force you to use an FLC, then that's what they will do.
Or force agencies to pay everyone via their payroll? Half the effort and way more taxes paid and collected...
There's caution and there's paranoia.Blog? What blog...?Comment
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Originally posted by malvolio View PostSo why not simply force the agencies to use umbrellas off a list of approved, UK-based and registered ones and cut out the middleman and a pile of new, intermediary collection and auditing requirements?
Or force agencies to pay everyone via their payroll? Half the effort and way more taxes paid and collected...
There's caution and there's paranoia.merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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Originally posted by malvolio View PostSo why not simply force the agencies to use umbrellas off a list of approved, UK-based and registered ones and cut out the middleman and a pile of new, intermediary collection and auditing requirements?
Or force agencies to pay everyone via their payroll? Half the effort and way more taxes paid and collected...
There's caution and there's paranoia.Comment
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Originally posted by mudskipper View PostThank you - I've created a separate thread to discuss the LFIG proposal as there's a lot of noise in this thread
http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ml#post2022126
http://community.ipse.co.uk/threads/...-no-10.108592/Comment
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Originally posted by tarbera View PostCongratulations on your new thread. when are you meeting the prime minister ?
http://community.ipse.co.uk/threads/...-no-10.108592/
Rather than linking to a members' only thread which, by post two, is having a dig at CUKers, why not link to the public site, so everyone can read?
https://www.ipse.co.uk/news/2014/pri...eelancers-no10
To clarify, the purpose of my new thread was to separate the discussion for Philip's proposal from the discussion of the ipse proposal as they seem to be separate things (as has been repeated several times in this thread). So not sure why the sarcasm's necessary?Comment
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