'Working Class' Labour does not exist anymore anyway.
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Originally posted by original PM View Post'Working Class' Labour does not exist anymore anyway.
Working class Labour exists at a local level, but the professionalisation of Parliamentary politics means the route is in think tanks and special advisers.Comment
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Originally posted by Old Greg View PostI think Alan Johnson was about the last prominent one. Didn't like his politics but he was competent and likable enough.
Working class Labour exists at a local level, but the professionalisation of Parliamentary politics means the route is in think tanks and special advisers.(\__/)
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Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Posti read recently that when it started out, the party was led by the cream of the working class, now it is led by the dregs of the middle classComment
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Originally posted by Old Greg View PostI think Alan Johnson was about the last prominent one. Didn't like his politics but he was competent and likable enough.
Working class Labour exists at a local level, but the professionalisation of Parliamentary politics means the route is in think tanks and special advisers.Comment
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Originally posted by sirja View PostAnd Red Princes like Kinnock and Blairs kidsComment
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Originally posted by sirja View PostSome people here seem to think the EU will be happy to 'Fast track' Scotland in, I tried to tell them yesterday that the feeling in the EU is the exact opposite. .. spirit of the age is integration, not separation.
In the spirit on integration and and to get fat membership fees from Scotland, the EU will fast-track them in, all the more so because it will piss off Westminster.Comment
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Originally posted by Platypus View PostYou're wrong IMO.
In the spirit on integration and and to get fat membership fees from Scotland, the EU will fast-track them in, all the more so because it will piss off Westminster."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostIt's actually in Westminister's interests to have an iScotland in the EU with the Euro. However it's not in the interests of any country who is an EU member with a very strong separatist movement like Spain.Comment
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostIt's actually in Westminister's interests to have an iScotland in the EU with the Euro. However it's not in the interests of any country who is an EU member with a very strong separatist movement like Spain.
The Germans are worried about another basket case economy and will want strict fiscal rules agreed before Scotland is allowed in. The ECB will not accept Scotland if there is any reneging on debt and will also require considerable reserves to support sterlingisation.
The French, Italians etc. will also find it unacceptable for Scotland to keep the rebate.
We will get in, but it will be on the terms of several other members of the EU. It will not be quick.Comment
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