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Originally posted by jemb View Postand all those examples were a long time ago in a world without anything like the Global markets we have today.
..... my main gripe with the Yes campaign is its inability to recognise the considerable pain that would follow a Yes vote and their total and abject failure to address the issues years ago.
A lot of the problems with uncertainty in the markets is to do with Westminster refusing to make contingency plans or even contemplate that the Yes side could win. We could have had a grown up debate if both sides had agreed a few things that would happen in the event of a Yes vote but the No side just refused and preferred to go the Project Fear route.Comment
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Originally posted by Batcher View PostI don't think the Yes campaign have said there would be no pain.
A lot of the problems with uncertainty in the markets is to do with Westminster refusing to make contingency plans or even contemplate that the Yes side could win. We could have had a grown up debate if both sides had agreed a few things that would happen in the event of a Yes vote but the No side just refused and preferred to go the Project Fear route.merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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Originally posted by Batcher View PostI don't think the Yes campaign have said there would be no pain.
A lot of the problems with uncertainty in the markets is to do with Westminster refusing to make contingency plans or even contemplate that the Yes side could win. We could have had a grown up debate if both sides had agreed a few things that would happen in the event of a Yes vote but the No side just refused and preferred to go the Project Fear route.
1. Sterling is an asset to be shared
2. Scotland can therefore renege on its share of the national debt.
3. Scotland will adopt sterlingisation.
4. Scotland can do 2 and 3 and stay in the EU.
As 1 and 4 are patently untrue, we must assume that the Yes campaign is not being straight about the pain.Comment
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Originally posted by Batcher View PostI don't think the Yes campaign have said there would be no pain.
A lot of the problems with uncertainty in the markets is to do with Westminster refusing to make contingency plans or even contemplate that the Yes side could win. We could have had a grown up debate if both sides had agreed a few things that would happen in the event of a Yes vote but the No side just refused and preferred to go the Project Fear route.
The trouble is that the 'Yes' campaign refuses to engage on the impact of No CU, a section 49 entry into the EU or any of the other legitimate questions that are placed before them.
I asked my local SNP MSP what pain there would be here. He said a few banking jobs, less than 500 across Scotland. Bonkers.Comment
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Originally posted by Batcher View PostI don't think the Yes campaign have said there would be no pain.
A lot of the problems with uncertainty in the markets is to do with Westminster refusing to make contingency plans or even contemplate that the Yes side could win. We could have had a grown up debate if both sides had agreed a few things that would happen in the event of a Yes vote but the No side just refused and preferred to go the Project Fear route.
The only strategy is the one they have adopted, squash debate, present a united front, promise everything to everyone, leave it all till after thursday. That way, every faction and every voter can dream.
dream of power, dream of free money , dream of coming out on top.(\__/)
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Originally posted by EternalOptimist View PostBut there can be no debate in the yes team. How would that work when there are opposing views being held by the different factions ?
The only strategy is the one they have adopted, squash debate, present a united front, promise everything to everyone, leave it all till after thursday. That way, every faction and every voter can dream.
dream of power, dream of free money , dream of coming out on top.Comment
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BTW, The NATO Sectary General has made it clear that Scotland would have to reapply to join. I can easily the US and UK insisting that keeping Trident in Scotland is the price for that. So Potentially we're looking at an Independent Scotland, with its interest rates set in London, it's spending vetoed in Westminster and it's dreams of being Nuclear free dashed. If that's being independent........Comment
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Originally posted by sirja View PostBTW, The NATO Sectary General has made it clear that Scotland would have to reapply to join. I can easily the US and UK insisting that keeping Trident in Scotland is the price for that. So Potentially we're looking at an Independent Scotland, with its interest rates set in London, it's spending vetoed in Westminster and it's dreams of being Nuclear free dashed. If that's being independent........(\__/)
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Originally posted by sirja View PostBTW, The NATO Sectary General has made it clear that Scotland would have to reapply to join. I can easily the US and UK insisting that keeping Trident in Scotland is the price for that. So Potentially we're looking at an Independent Scotland, with its interest rates set in London, it's spending vetoed in Westminster and it's dreams of being Nuclear free dashed. If that's being independent........Comment
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