Salmond "We can take Scotland in two weeks"

[jemb]

Was not in town last week, seems to be quite a bit of yes stuff going on today. The 2 stalls I seen about 50% of the signs were pretty much "end London rule" and "sack the tories." I don't know what it is like to live in the Crimea just now but some people clearly think we are on a par with it.

...placards include 'Vote the Tories out', 'BBC are liars' and 'We don't need the English'

all a bit sad....

[TestMangler]

...both posts - what a load of inane drivel.

care to point out what part of the question, and question about a conclusion is drivel ?

The figures were quoted by one of you like minded intellectuals.

[minestrone]

Serious question on the figs you have given us here:

Are the 'Scottish' figures actually worked out correctly, i.e. all income tax, NI, corporation tax, VAT, alcohol duty, cigarette duty and loads of others I can't be arsed thinking of included ?

Because, if they are, that would mean that in 21/22 years, Scotland would have an accumulated debt roughly similar to the UK for the first 9 months of this year.

if you removed Scotland's share of the UK debt servicing from your figures, that would indicate that we should have become independent in 1979 and would be a tulip load better off now.

Debt servicing is not in those figures. Neither is the sums to bail out the banks. I don't think defence is in there as well and running foreign interests. These are just Scotland's tax revenue and public sector expenditure.

It is pretty shocking state of affairs.

The plan is to take on 60 billion more debt in 5 years over and above the 120 billion we are expected to take on of our share of the Uks debt. Our national debt will be 300% of GDP soon and that is game over territory.

If you cant understand anything else just ask me. Just don't think stupidity and ignorance are a valid position in this.

[jemb]

care to point out what part of the question, and question about a conclusion is drivel ?

The figures were quoted by one of you like minded intellectuals.

I said both posts were inane drivel - sorry just yours appeared in the reply.
It's a wee bit more difficult than either of you realise. Economics is hard.

I guess the only way you're gong to see how painful it is will be to vote 'Yes', as a contractor it may not even impinge on you that much. But a 'Yes' vote will see Salmond announcing on Friday morning that if he can't get a CU he will go for Sterlingisation. You can expect an announcement from Cameron and Millipede that there will be no CU.

[LondonManc]

If they go, do we get to call ourselves Greater Britain?

[jemb]

Debt servicing is not in those figures. Neither is the sums to bail out the banks. I don't think defence is in there as well and running foreign interests. These are just Scotland's tax revenue and public sector expenditure.

It is pretty shocking state of affairs.

The plan is to take on 60 billion more debt in 5 years over and above the 120 billion we are expected to take on of our share of the Uks debt. Our national debt will be 300% of GDP soon and that is game over territory.

If you cant understand anything else just ask me. Just don't think stupidity and ignorance are a valid position in this.

Ah - ok - you seem to understand more than I thought.
You also need to factor in the extra borrowing required to shore up Sterlingisation - anything North of 20 Billion.

[jemb]

If they go, do we get to call ourselves Greater Britain?

of the Former UK

[minestrone]

OK defence and debt are there

[TestMangler]

Debt servicing is not in those figures. Neither is the sums to bail out the banks. I don't think defence is in there as well and running foreign interests. These are just Scotland's tax revenue and public sector expenditure.

It is pretty shocking state of affairs.

The plan is to take on 60 billion more debt in 5 years over and above the 120 billion we are expected to take on of our share of the Uks debt. Our national debt will be 300% of GDP soon and that is game over territory.

If you cant understand anything else just ask me. Just don't think stupidity and ignorance are a valid position in this.

Minestrone, I was asking a civil question about figures you posted. No need to be a condescending twat.

Debt servicing IS included in your figures. It says so on your figures. Interest on debt based on population % is included.

So, the question was, are all Scottish taxation incomes included in that, or is it a rough population % based estimate ?

[jemb]

Minestrone, I was asking a civil question about figures you posted. No need to be a condescending twat.

Debt servicing IS included in your figures. It says so on your figures. Interest on debt based on population % is included.

So, the question was, are all Scottish taxation incomes included in that, or is it a rough population % based estimate ?

Peston is quoting 20Billion+ for Sterlingisation.
May well need to be more than that to get a Clause 49 entry into the EU.