Victim blaming, or sensible advice

[xoggoth]

PC crap. Warning people of factors that might put them at risk is is not the same as blaming them. Is telling people they should stay alert and avoid using expensive phones in areas prone to street crime blaming the victim?

[SueEllen]

good so we improve safety in town to help prevent the 8% of stranger 1 rapes.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

You would improve town safety to stop anti-social behaviour, drug deals, muggings and sexual assault plus rape.

[SueEllen]

so change the rules & the offence so that we have more chance of a safe conviction.

The CPS and police have changed their attitudes.

It's just a case of society i.e. the people who can be put on a jury, not changing their attitudes. After all if some are like you and don't know that non-consensual penetrative sex is rape regardless of situation then off course their will be less convictions.

[vetran]

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

You would improve town safety to stop anti-social behaviour, drug deals, muggings and sexual assault plus rape.

no I was just suggesting it was a good positive suggestion for dealing with 8% of rapes.


Maybe we are having difficulty communicating? Or your emotions are clouding your judgement?

[SueEllen]

no I was just suggesting it was a good positive suggestion for dealing with 8% of rapes.


Maybe we are having difficulty communicating? Or your emotions are clouding your judgement?

8% of rapes in that area or nationally? If it's that area do they all happen in that location?

If not it would be taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

[mudskipper]

PC crap. Warning people of factors that might put them at risk is is not the same as blaming them. Is telling people they should stay alert and avoid using expensive phones in areas prone to street crime blaming the victim?

But this message isn't targeted in any way at all.

It's "if you drink, you could get raped." Drinking is, and should be, as much a normal, social activity for women as it is for men.

My (tongue in cheek) suggestion of a poster with a picture of a man with "Think rapist!" is probably equally well targeted - after all the biggest factor that puts women at risk of rape is men.

[original PM]

But this message isn't targeted in any way at all.

It's "if you drink, you could get raped." Drinking is, and should be, as much a normal, social activity for women as it is for men.

My (tongue in cheek) suggestion of a poster with a picture of a man with "Think rapist!" is probably equally well targeted - after all the biggest factor that puts women at risk of rape is extremely small proportion of men.

hmmm ftfy

I do actual get quite frustrated with the All Men are Rapists label.

[mudskipper]

hmmm ftfy

I do actual get quite frustrated with the All Men are Rapists label.

The lack of targeting was my point!

[vetran]

But this message isn't targeted in any way at all.

It's "if you drink, you could get raped." Drinking is, and should be, as much a normal, social activity for women as it is for men.

My (tongue in cheek) suggestion of a poster with a picture of a man with "Think rapist!" is probably equally well targeted - after all the biggest factor that puts women at risk of rape is men.

Then lets have more targeted posters and initiatives, there seems to be no research and essentially little or no positive movement apart from Sue Ellen's hanging juries.

Might as well combine the Think Rapist with Think Paedophile and kill two birds with one stone. If you make the model middle aged and white you can add think Racist for bonus points.

[SueEllen]

Then lets have more targeted posters and initiatives, there seems to be no research and essentially little or no positive movement apart from Sue Ellen's hanging juries.

Might as well combine the Think Rapist with Think Paedophile and kill two birds with one stone. If you make the model middle aged and white you can add think Racist for bonus points.

For the "Think Paedophile" poster the person would have to be a White male well-known public figure so you are OK there....