Past AWR Concerns & Now Negative References

[Wanderer]

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See! It's true pauly! All the GIRLS have got it in for you!!! It's definitely sex discrimination. Don't stand for it. Fight back.

[BA to the Stars]

What is so great about this client?

It is a big world out there with lots of other potential clients. Go on, have a look, it won't bite.

You cannot force anyone to engage you - it is a free market. If you did get back in, you could have a world of pain awaiting if you have to deal with the manager.

If the area within which you want to work employs both male & female workers, this may blow a bit of a hole in your discrimination, especially if the manager involved has recruited both genders. As for the anti-male comment in the meeting, could it have been banter?

Move on

PS - How do you trade. Does IR35 mean anything to you - if so, perhaps you may wish to revise your stance re your employee rights

[fraymond]

Why don't you submit a subject access request to the company?

At least that way you can find out you're on a hiding for nothing...

As an aside, as good practice I send subject access requests at the end of each calendar year to a variety of institutions who I've dealt with that year (ie. agencies, reference checking, financials etc). It will cost no more than £10 per request and they are legally required to respond. Including any references that have been given about you.

[pauly]

What is so great about this client?
It is a big world out there with lots of other potential clients. Go on, have a look, it won't bite.

Clientco was good fit. Super convenient, got lotsa budget and the kinda work I wanted to do - hence was considering going permie with them.

PS - How do you trade. Does IR35 mean anything to you - if so, perhaps you may wish to revise your stance your employee rights

I doubt the HR and internal managers/directors care about my finances. I can't see anyone grassing to the Inland Revenue if I was claiming rights. AWR rights would not help in an IR35 investigation, but don't see how claiming them would automatically trigger any investigation.

[Project Monkey]

don't see how claiming them would automatically trigger any investigation.

True, but should you be investigated for whatever reason then claiming employee rights certainly suggests that your working practices are inside IR35.

[pauly]

As an aside, as good practice I send subject access requests at the end of each calendar year to a variety of institutions who I've dealt with that year (ie. agencies, reference checking, financials etc). It will cost no more than £10 per request and they are legally required to respond. Including any references that have been given about you.

Your serious? But you haven't sent in subject access requests to ex-clientco's right?

And the kinda access request I would have to make is something along the lines of "provide me every document/email that has my name in it or about me by X manager or X HR person". My references were probably internal verbal ones, but the above request could reveal something about whats going on. 10 quid - not sure I have anything to loose other than never being recruited there again (looks like that is not happening in anycase).

[northernladuk]

Your serious? But you haven't sent in subject access requests to ex-clientco's right?

And the kinda access request I would have to make is something along the lines of "provide me every document/email that has my name in it or about me by X manager or X HR person". My references were probably internal verbal ones, but the above request could reveal something about whats going on. 10 quid - not sure I have anything to loose other than never being recruited there again (looks like that is not happening in anycase).

Never say never. Have been back to an ex client twice after a break and got asked to join a client I interviewed with 3 years ago!!! This is business now not a personal vendetta. Do your job professionally, shake hands on the way out, leave the client to his own politics and wait for a call back to pop up sometime in the future. Burning your bridge with a client WILL come back and bite you. Contracting is a surprisingly small world, rumours and people can pop up in the strangest of places including any new clients. Remember also people move off clients so if it is a person problem it will change in time.

Try to recover some level of professionalism instead of being an odius little tool and move on.

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Clientco was good fit. Super convenient, got lotsa budget and the kinda work I wanted to do - hence was considering going permie with them.



I doubt the HR and internal managers/directors care about my finances. I can't see anyone grassing to the Inland Revenue if I was claiming rights. AWR rights would not help in an IR35 investigation, but don't see how claiming them would automatically trigger any investigation.

If you filed a complaint using the AWR against the company they may then take an interest in your IR35 status

[BolshieBastard]

As an aside, as good practice I send subject access requests at the end of each calendar year to a variety of institutions who I've dealt with that year (ie. agencies, reference checking, financials etc). It will cost no more than £10 per request and they are legally required to respond. Including any references that have been given about you.

Say what TF!?

[cojak]

If you filed a complaint using the AWR against the company they may then take an interest in your IR35 status

Yeah, good luck with that...