Past AWR Concerns & Now Negative References

[formant]

Why the freak invite me to apply for roles and then have your management team mess up the application process.

There is a big gap between 'I'd like to see you apply' and 'I want to hire you'. If you understand the former as some sort of job offer you're in for a lot of disappointment throughout the rest of your working life.

I've lost count on how many times I've had my application invited after enquiring about a role with the whole thing never even leading to an interview. And then there are all the times where I myself invited invitations in that way as a hiring manager. It's what you do in that position, it's called 'being polite'. Imagine how annoyed people would get if you told them upfront that they don't stand a chance, without even considering their application? What do you expect?

[jmo21]

You are thinking of taking a flyer in court because you have been told they gave you negative feedback and nothing more???

The feedback could have been "he is not strong enough in the technology, we want someone better".

Something like that from a tech manager will kill any application stone dead.

What exactly makes you think it is something worse, something that you can prove they are guilty of something in giving a bad reference?

[Moscow Mule]

Why don't you submit a subject access request to the company?

At least that way you can find out you're on a hiding for nothing...

[JoJoGabor]

Great advice and its not lost on me.

I just was interested if anyone on this forum has pursued similar grievance matters and are glad they did.

No I doubt it as we are all contractors. As a contractor you do not raise grievances in a legal way, you dont have any recourse. You are a supplier, they have chosen to use another supplier of services instead. Its like Tesco taking legal action against you as you have started shopping at Sainsburys.

They are your customer, you are a supplier and if you have any sense you will let it lie. The IT world is a very small place and you are more likely to lose out on future work at various places as people move around a lot. I have been asked about previous contractors I have worked with who have not been great and caused them to not get through to interview stage. Conversely if they are good at their job and easy to work with I have given them a glowing recommendation.

[northernladuk]

At least 6 people have just said forget it and move on but the OP is still banging on...

He wants to hear what he wants to hear and nothing else so this thread isn't going anywhere.

[bluetoaster]

Re: Past AWR Concerns & Now Negative References

At least 6 people have just said forget it and move on but the OP is still banging on...

He wants to hear what he wants to hear and nothing else so this thread isn't going anywhere.

absolutely agree

[Wanderer]

He wants to hear what he wants to hear and nothing else so this thread isn't going anywhere.

Yep, that's pretty much how it goes, isn't it.

Legal action for slander/libel is very high risk and in any case it's a rich man's game. There is no practical way for people like us to take on a multi million pound company.

pauly, you can argue the point with us for a while about how hard done by you are if that makes you feel better but the bottom line is that you've got to take it on the chin, get over it and focus on finding the next contract.

[pauly]

What exactly makes you think it is something worse, something that you can prove they are guilty of something in giving a bad reference?

As your asking... I am sensing it is gender discrimination. The manager seemed to have it in for the guys in team, seemed to be cuddly close to the female team workers and made an anti-male comment in a meeting. Gotta a sense for it, but I am sure this is not enough to prove anything though.

[pauly]

No I doubt it as we are all contractors. As a contractor you do not raise grievances in a legal way, you dont have any recourse. You are a supplier, they have chosen to use another supplier of services instead. Its like Tesco taking legal action against you as you have started shopping at Sainsburys.

Sorry dude. Don't wanna blow a hole in your analogy, but Tesco and Sainsbury shopping is not the same. We have a contract to do services for a company and the relevant acts probably cover us. Just googled the Equal Opportunties and Discrimination (Equality Act 2010)...

"This Act applies equally to employees, workers and many of those who are self-employed (only Freelancers who fall under Part 5 of the Equality Act 2010 are covered – that is those who are described as ‘contract workers’ and are contracted personally to do the work, i.e you cannot claim discrimination against your Employer if you are contracted for the provision of services and hire someone else, or sub-contract someone else, to do the work – you must do the work yourself personally."

I know asserting these rights is probably gonna lead to a kicking, but I think we shouldn't let the employers think there is no recourse.

[pauly]

At least 6 people have just said forget it and move on but the OP is still banging on... He wants to hear what he wants to hear and nothing else so this thread isn't going anywhere.

I am listening. Just want to air it out. That is the point of a forum.