Reply to: Past AWR Concerns & Now Negative References

[eek]

First part I agree with.

Second part, surely he has legal insurance that covers all costs. I certainly do (hello QDOS again) and when I needed it, it paid out. Recovered £14k for me. A must have as a contractor.

Only if the legal insurance company is willing to pursue the case. And if the evidence is what was stated no insurance firm on earth is going to agree to pay towards the case.

[GB9]

Legal insurance

Your company salesman (you) wasn't good enough. Now you can go and make yourself look like a total idiot by being that idiot or hunt for your next contract.

Oh and if the end client is like me they won't do anything at all with your complaint until they end up in court. At which point they will appoint expensive lawyers win the case and claim £100,000 for their lawyers costs. HTH

First part I agree with.

Second part, surely he has legal insurance that covers all costs. I certainly do (hello QDOS again) and when I needed it, it paid out. Recovered £14k for me. A must have as a contractor.

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Certainly looks like, or a troll. Not a bad one though I have to admit.

Kept us going for 6 pages so not too bad at all

[northernladuk]

This had to be a sockie didn't it???

Certainly looks like, or a troll. Not a bad one though I have to admit.

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Indeed we don't so why are you still here boring us to death with the something you know we can't help with because we don't have all the details? Every post just makes you look more and more ridiculous IMO.

This had to be a sockie didn't it???

[northernladuk]

I am hearing all this, but have to consider that you don't know all the details (e.g. the past conversations with the HR VP and his questions intimating that there could be a pay-off). Or ensuring my name is not on the "non-rehire blacklist", else a return would be impossible even if the fascist ex-manager gets the boot.

Indeed we don't so why are you still here boring us to death with the something you know we can't help with because we don't have all the details? Every post just makes you look more and more ridiculous IMO.

[fraymond]

FYI.

Access Your Personal Information - Subject Access Request - ICO

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

I ask this with the utmost respect (as Cojak's watching) Can you please explain why you think that you deserve recompense or compensation? You are a businessman and you made a presentation to a potential supplier who decided to go with another business

[eek]

We are businessmen (or women). Most business people count their success through cash in the bank. The point of this thread is to review the avenues to remediate the loss of a chunky contract because of crappy feedback. As you correctly pointed out, the loss of goodwill to "Me Ltd" by taking action is a factor to consider.

Your company salesman (you) wasn't good enough. Now you can go and make yourself look like a total idiot by being that idiot or hunt for your next contract.

Oh and if the end client is like me they won't do anything at all with your complaint until they end up in court. At which point they will appoint expensive lawyers win the case and claim £100,000 for their lawyers costs. HTH

[mudskipper]

You go for it. Fill yer boots.

(I assume that's what you want to hear?)

[pauly]

You do realise you will bump into someone again you pissed off? And it well be a better position.

Never say never. Have been back to an ex client twice after a break and got asked to join a client I interviewed with 3 years ago!!! This is business now not a personal vendetta. Do your job professionally, shake hands on the way out, leave the client to his own politics and wait for a call back to pop up sometime in the future.

I am hearing all this, but have to consider that you don't know all the details (e.g. the past conversations with the HR VP and his questions intimating that there could be a pay-off). Or ensuring my name is not on the "non-rehire blacklist", else a return would be impossible even if the fascist ex-manager gets the boot.

Burning your bridge with a client WILL come back and bite you. Contracting is a surprisingly small world, rumours and people can pop up in the strangest of places including any new clients. Remember also people move off clients so if it is a person problem it will change in time.

Playing the long game dosen't always work out. Usually depends if you stay in the same incestual vertical. The people that worked with me, know me - the manager is only one node in that network.

We are businessmen (or women). Most business people count their success through cash in the bank. The point of this thread is to review the avenues to remediate the loss of a chunky contract because of crappy feedback. As you correctly pointed out, the loss of goodwill to "Me Ltd" by taking action is a factor to consider.

[SueEllen]

Your serious? But you haven't sent in subject access requests to ex-clientco's right?

And the kinda access request I would have to make is something along the lines of "provide me every document/email that has my name in it or about me by X manager or X HR person". My references were probably internal verbal ones, but the above request could reveal something about whats going on. 10 quid - not sure I have anything to loose other than never being recruited there again (looks like that is not happening in anycase).

You do realise you will bump into someone again you pissed off?

And it well be a better position.

[cojak]

If you filed a complaint using the AWR against the company they may then take an interest in your IR35 status

Yeah, good luck with that...

[BolshieBastard]

As an aside, as good practice I send subject access requests at the end of each calendar year to a variety of institutions who I've dealt with that year (ie. agencies, reference checking, financials etc). It will cost no more than £10 per request and they are legally required to respond. Including any references that have been given about you.

Say what TF!?

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Clientco was good fit. Super convenient, got lotsa budget and the kinda work I wanted to do - hence was considering going permie with them.



I doubt the HR and internal managers/directors care about my finances. I can't see anyone grassing to the Inland Revenue if I was claiming rights. AWR rights would not help in an IR35 investigation, but don't see how claiming them would automatically trigger any investigation.

If you filed a complaint using the AWR against the company they may then take an interest in your IR35 status