Veritas-IT - unpaid invoices.....

[Kitwe]

Concerning the tied-in clause...

This is what my solicitor had told me previously:

"I note that the Client wishes for you to continue working for them; however, as you know clause 12 of your contract states that you must not work for the Client for a period of 6 months where “such supply of services would be in competition with the services provided to the Client by the Company.” Given the wording of this clause, if having given notice of termination to Veritas, you continue to work for the Client there is a risk that the company or any administrator or liquidator appointed to manage the company, might take action against you for the recovery of damages for breach of contract; even though the company owes you money. This is because the administrator or liquidator appointed has a duty to act in the best interests of the company and its Creditors and may choose to sue you as they may only have to pay you a few pence in the pound you are owed, but see the amount paid to you by the Client as an asset, which belongs to the company and therefore the companies’ creditors as a group.

"I would however note that if Veritas is put into liquidation at a future date, they will be deemed to have ceased trading. After the order has been given for the company to be wound up, it would appear from the wording of clause 12 that you would then be able to recommence work for the Client as your services in these circumstances would not be “in competition with the services provided to the Client by the Company.” If they are not trading, it is unlikely that it could be construed that you are competing with them."

[minesapint]

Ess

nda,

Even though I had the call on Saturday and gave ESS my Email address I have not recieved the Email - therefore please ignore my last post.

Could someone please post the contents of the email ?

[funkyd]

Unless you signed your opt-out before you met the client then you are almost certainly opted-in and so free to go direct if you like.

My opt-out form was sent to me months after working for the client and I have been advised that I am opted-in and so the clause itself doesn't hold.

Let's not also forget that the fact that some people have not been paid for months is in itself a breach of the root of the contract and so they will have great difficulty pulling anyone up for anything.

[i_want_my_money]

Direct payments from clients (a remote possibility)

If my client pays me direct for work I am doing and any unpaid invoices (I wish), am I liable? I didn’t sign my contract, my umbrella company did. I asked the accountants about liability for payment and they told me I am ‘just an employee’.

Is this relevant with regard to administrators chasing for payment? Will they go after the umbrella company or me? Surely they should be chasing my client for the money anyway?

[outofwork]

Where are you J G and M

Does anyone know where Jason Greg and esp.. Marcus. I understand that Marcus stopped all e-mails from 9.30am on 19th Sept ( wed) So why Marcus did you sit crocodile crying in front of us all and not say a word when someone asked if we could send info home. You let us sit for 2 hours sending emails home when infact you knew they would never get there. Had you not done enough. I wish I had listened to some of your employees when they said something was up. What an earth was all the i-place about. Again I actually thought you were doing what was best for the company when all along you did not have a clue. I hope you lot can live with yourselves. All 3 plus Pramod are a joke and always will be. By the way Greg cross me off your wedding list. That's if there is going to be a wedding..Oh yeah she loves you.........

[WindyAnna]

If my client pays me direct for work I am doing and any unpaid invoices (I wish), am I liable? I didn’t sign my contract, my umbrella company did. I asked the accountants about liability for payment and they told me I am ‘just an employee’.

Is this relevant with regard to administrators chasing for payment? Will they go after the umbrella company or me? Surely they should be chasing my client for the money anyway?

The administrators will go after your client, they may try to exert pressure on you or your umbrella to co-operate but it is your client they will go after legally for the money.

[funkyd]

Spoke to BDO the other day. They are of the opinion that creditors will not see a penny because the debts are too great. I asked them about the client who had a ton of unpaid invoices and they said they are not aware of this.

The contracts were sold (so I understand) to pay off RBS. Now we all have to deal with another bunch of jokers.

Thanks Jason, you did a mighty fine job of screwing me and my mates. You're a coward, a liar, a cheat and a thief!

[outofwork]

I agree

Yep I agree Funkyd. But also a thankyou to Greg, Marcus and Pramod. You did indeed did a fine job of screwing us all ( contractors and staff ) over. Who ever awarded Pramod Financial Director of the year award deserves an award themselves!! Natwest you deserve an award as well letting the directors purshase Paragon when they were in financial difficulty. Marcus deserves an award for buying i-place at £250.000 when the company had no money and Greg deserves an award for going home sick on 19th Sept. Going back to Paragon, Saj the owner who sold Paragon to Veritas has now taken on Veritas's London and Bristol Offices under SCS-Techonlogy!!Nice one. I have heard of the phrase what goes around comes around but this one is ridiculous!! Wonder who he will sell it to next when its going under. Sorry guys but fumming at the moment for all of us! Unbelieveable

[cheesedoff]

Veritas - truth down the drain!!

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I am now getting in touch with my MP. That these fraudsters can get away with this is not acceptable. I accept that in some cases companies have unexpected financial difficulties through no fault of their own, but regarding Veritas, this is not the case. When posed with the question 3 weeks prior to the demise of the company, Jason Giller was asked point blanik whether there were any problems, to which he answered "No, business as usual". These guys have effectively stolen time and money from both employees and contractors and have left them in awkward positions regarding their contracts of employment and in the case of contractors their contracts.

[MADBILLY]

what has really happend here!!!

I would like to know why a company that nobody has even heard of was able to buy the assets of a company that owes money to contractors and staff and went into administration the day the deal was done?

This stinks of inside information and I would not be suprised if some of the ex Veritas hierarchy end up profiting. Also what has happend to the supposed massive perm pipeline, starters not booked! offers about to close!! that certain team leaders and sales managers were filtering off to mini-Veritas!

I for one am glad to be out of the whole mess now, I have a new job and a bright future outside recruitment. Writing to MP's and talking to briefs is a waste of time and money. This has been a tuck up on so many levels from day 1, there is no money to come back in now so the poor contractors should look to the new owners for their money back! for the staff its best to delete and move on!!