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    #21
    Originally posted by fzbucks View Post
    Perhaps EDS could pay towards the cost of clearing somebody rather than expect the clients to - I think that's what causes the catch 22 situation.

    If an agency has someone on th ebooks they know they can place them in a lot more places, yet a client who pays for the clearance may only get a few months out of that person.
    I think that they probably do, to be honest - the consultancy I'm with at the moment are sponsoring me to get SC, not the client.
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      #22
      Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
      I think that they probably do, to be honest - the consultancy I'm with at the moment are sponsoring me to get SC, not the client.
      Ah but - any MOD piece of work to be contracted out will be costed in response to the ITT, and will include in the small print a sum of contingency money for clearing new staff. So EDS will have factored that contingency into their bid and will be able to recover it. Or not bother and simply not waste money clearing people

      OTOH most contracts run at around £1bn. How many £600s do you think it will take to make much difference to the bottom line?
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        #23
        Whilst on a contract with EDS, saw some jobs advertised on the MOD with EDS but got knocked back by the agents as my SC clearance had lapsed, so I thought whilst I was still on the books I would try going direct to the supplier and same old storey – No Sc clearance not interested. This despite my current EDS line manager recommending me to the MOD (DII) EDS resource manager and me offering to fund the application process.

        It just doesn’t make any sense.

        Was talking to an agent only yesterday and they were telling me that EDS cannot fill all the PM roles but will not even look at candidate CV’s without SC clearance and then they moan that most of the available remaining candidates with clearance are not suitable for the role.

        How dumb do you have to be for the penny not to drop?

        I have given up now applying for anything requiring clearance, I wrote to DVA, Cabinet office and my MP but only the DVA replied – Sorry we get loads of contractors complaining about this very issue but there is nothing we can do – send you compliant to the Cabinet Office – Still waiting for a response.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Peter Loew View Post
          I am a PM with SC clearance which expires in 2009. I am concerned that I will be less in demand when it expires.
          Should have said - your clearance expires in 2009, or one year after you leave a role which requires security clearance, whichever is sooner.

          So if you leave your SC cleared role today, clearance would run out 23rd August 2008, unless you found another role requiring SC.
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            #25
            Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
            So if you leave your SC cleared role today, clearance would run out 23rd August 2008, unless you found another role requiring SC.
            It's true. However while working for a client that did not require SC I made sure after the 1st extension they brought it over from my x client. SC is like the car, you can't do without it.
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              #26
              Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
              Should have said - your clearance expires in 2009, or one year after you leave a role which requires security clearance, whichever is sooner.

              So if you leave your SC cleared role today, clearance would run out 23rd August 2008, unless you found another role requiring SC.
              Is this the same weather you are a contractor or a permie?

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                #27
                Makes no difference.
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                  #28
                  I've got SC Clearance and it expires end of the year and I'm keen to keep my clearance level up, does anyone know of any agencies or job boards that specialise in clearance jobs

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by English Guy View Post
                    I've got SC Clearance and it expires end of the year and I'm keen to keep my clearance level up, does anyone know of any agencies or job boards that specialise in clearance jobs
                    Yes.





                    Oh, you want an answer....




                    Depends what you do, but Amtec (not Amtech, they're useless) are a good start. Also look at Qinetiq's Trusted Experts site.

                    Or search Jobserve for "clearance" or "SC". About 30% of all the jobs will be listed...
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by daz875 View Post
                      Whilst on a contract with EDS, saw some jobs advertised on the MOD with EDS but got knocked back by the agents as my SC clearance had lapsed, so I thought whilst I was still on the books I would try going direct to the supplier and same old storey – No Sc clearance not interested. This despite my current EDS line manager recommending me to the MOD (DII) EDS resource manager and me offering to fund the application process.

                      It just doesn’t make any sense.

                      Was talking to an agent only yesterday and they were telling me that EDS cannot fill all the PM roles but will not even look at candidate CV’s without SC clearance and then they moan that most of the available remaining candidates with clearance are not suitable for the role.

                      How dumb do you have to be for the penny not to drop?

                      I have given up now applying for anything requiring clearance, I wrote to DVA, Cabinet office and my MP but only the DVA replied – Sorry we get loads of contractors complaining about this very issue but there is nothing we can do – send you compliant to the Cabinet Office – Still waiting for a response.
                      To rub salt in your wounds....I am on a contract for one of EDS' clients. I have a project which has had to wait 3 months for EDS to resource with a SC cleared Project Manager and Technical Lead.....

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