Computer science graduates struggle to secure their first jobs

[courtg9000]

Took me three years from finishing my HND to getting a 'proper' IT job between 95 and 98 and even then it was done through an IJA at the company I was working at.

What went wrong. It took me 3 days after my finals to get my first IT role back in 97 and I made them wait a fortnight as I buggered off to the Costa Del Sol for some R&R before starting said position!

[herman_g]

Harsh.
I've always believed that you make your own luck, but I'm considering now that my relative good fortune could be partially down to accidents of history and instinctively moving away from disaster like an ant in a microwave.

I graduated in the 80's from a programme that included a work placement sandwiched between study and coursework.
At the time, there was a high demand, and our year had 100% placement within weeks of graduation. Usually to the same company at which we interned.

I think incorporating internships in education works beautifully, I don't know why more unis don't do it. Too bTech?

It took me 2 years to and a move of 2100 km find my first role putting mainframe tapes on tape drives at a major bank. The normal practice was to hire grads as operators and progress to coding back then.

The bank hired interns from two colleges for 10 weeks. The same ones normally came back once or twice and then were hired when they graduated with a defined career path through to senior management..

[xoggoth]

Almost makes me glad to be a retired senile old fart.

[Dorkeaux]

I don't have one! What did I miss?

I've riffed on this before, but I'm often gobsmacked at how bad CompSci Uni graduates can be.
I believe it is more of a talent, like music or languages. If you don't have it, no amount of education can make up the shortfall.

I was the senior architect on a programme made up of a variety of indies, permies and big 4 consultants. A new graduate from KPMG introduced himself as an architect, so I asked him what his background was. BA? Infrastructure? Coding?
He informed me that he was taught that "Coding is what Indians do."

[Protagoras]

I've riffed on this before, but I'm often gobsmacked at how bad CompSci Uni graduates can be.
I believe it is more of a talent, like music or languages. If you don't have it, no amount of education can make up the shortfall.

I was the senior architect on a programme made up of a variety of indies, permies and big 4 consultants. A new graduate from KPMG introduced himself as an architect, so I asked him what his background was. BA? Infrastructure? Coding?
He informed me that he was taught that "Coding is what Indians do."

What a numpty! Even if he was 'taught' this, he should know better than to say so.

Those on whom he looks down today will be taking his job in the future.

Presumably, he was actually a trainee architect. If I was his boss it would be six months at the coding coal face for him to learn some respect and humility.

[ladymuck]

I did do a HNC at evening classes. I was supposed to get a HND but couldn't be bothered to do the final module. I don't remember any of it. Having just looked at the certificate and the modules I did pass, I don't know what any of them were about.

[sadkingbilly]

'architect'

[Dorkeaux]

'architect'

'engineer'

[sadkingbilly]

'engineer'

yes, and fairly successful for the last <>45 years, thanks

[willendure]

If I was his boss it would be six months at the coding coal face for him to learn some respect and humility.

10 years more like!