Overemployment / working two FT contracts at the same time?

[BlasterBates]

Interesting outcome there. If you're good and in demand and they want you, then that will make a difference. As will the company culture.

Things are fine until the project goes wrong, then perhaps being found out that you've been moonlighting won't go down well.

If you listen to his further videos then his life wasn't so hot when he was working on two contracts at the same time. He had to give them up because he was suffering depression.

[NotAllThere]

Things are fine until the project goes wrong, then perhaps being found out that you've been moonlighting won't go down well.

Always be open with what you're doing. Mind you, I'd never do two full time jobs.

[edison]

I'm currently doing two outside IR35 contracts via different agencies for 2 days a week each. Both clients know that I am working elsewhere and are quite flexible about it. I totally decide when and how I deliver the work (within reason.)

[ladymuck]

I'm currently doing two outside IR35 contracts via different agencies for 2 days a week each. Both clients know that I am working elsewhere and are quite flexible about it. I totally decide when and how I deliver the work (within reason.)

I was going to say you should pop along to this thread and tell GJABS how you got not one, but two, part-time gigs but then I saw you'd already stopped by

[ConsultingTechArchitect]

Ignore the haters.

• If you're very efficient, you can handle two full time workloads in 40 hours.
• You need to qualify the roles to check they are suitable for being 'over employed', you can ask well worded questions to understand their 'ways of working'
  • Don't take lead roles
  • Don't take anything like a BA role which needs lots of time on the phone/meetings
  • don't take anything that operates in sprints/agile or you'll be on the phone all the time
  • ask direct questions about the companies teams/slack/call culture
• Ideally, do this with outside roles or one inside and one outside.

The grumpy men of this forum will shout about the risk. There is nothing wrong with risk, how you manage the risk is what's important. If you're too risk adverse (most people here), you'll never do anything.

[BlasterBates]

Ignore the haters.

• If you're very efficient, you can handle two full time workloads in 40 hours.
• You need to qualify the roles to check they are suitable for being 'over employed', you can ask well worded questions to understand their 'ways of working'
  • Don't take lead roles
  • Don't take anything like a BA role which needs lots of time on the phone/meetings
  • don't take anything that operates in sprints/agile or you'll be on the phone all the time
  • ask direct questions about the companies teams/slack/call culture
• Ideally, do this with outside roles or one inside and one outside.

The grumpy men of this forum will shout about the risk. There is nothing wrong with risk, how you manage the risk is what's important. If you're too risk adverse (most people here), you'll never do anything.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29633083

I had a coworker try to pull the two remote jobs at once thing.

Thinking a customer was calling he answered the wrong phone and said the wrong company name, but it was actually his bosses boss.

Company fired him, and actually went so far as to threaten to sue the guy until he agreed to pay restitution (one year pay), and they told the other company who fired him. I don’t know if the other company did anything else.

That was in the US though. Just need to be aware of the legal implications.

As this trend grows, rather like tax avoidance the risks will rise.

[ConsultingTechArchitect]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29633083



That was in the US though. Just need to be aware of the legal implications.

As this trend grows, rather like tax avoidance the risks will rise.

The idiot on HN news wasn’t practicing good OpSec.

as with anything, you need to decide what level of risk you want to be exposed to.

[cojak]

Ignore the haters.

• If you're very efficient, you can handle two full time workloads in 40 hours.
• You need to qualify the roles to check they are suitable for being 'over employed', you can ask well worded questions to understand their 'ways of working'
  • Don't take lead roles
  • Don't take anything like a BA role which needs lots of time on the phone/meetings
  • don't take anything that operates in sprints/agile or you'll be on the phone all the time
  • ask direct questions about the companies teams/slack/call culture
• Ideally, do this with outside roles or one inside and one outside.

The grumpy men of this forum will shout about the risk. There is nothing wrong with risk, how you manage the risk is what's important. If you're too risk adverse (most people here), you'll never do anything.

If people want to do it, that sounds like a reasonable checklist.

It’s all about risks and consequences I guess.

But the people here aren’t too risk adverse, they just manage different risks.

[northernladuk]

Ignore the haters.

• If you're very efficient, you can handle two full time workloads in 40 hours.
• You need to qualify the roles to check they are suitable for being 'over employed', you can ask well worded questions to understand their 'ways of working'
  • Don't take lead roles
  • Don't take anything like a BA role which needs lots of time on the phone/meetings
  • don't take anything that operates in sprints/agile or you'll be on the phone all the time
  • ask direct questions about the companies teams/slack/call culture
• Ideally, do this with outside roles or one inside and one outside.

The grumpy men of this forum will shout about the risk. There is nothing wrong with risk, how you manage the risk is what's important. If you're too risk adverse (most people here), you'll never do anything.

The grumpy men and haters pointed out solid facts of the situation and highlighted the risks. The only way to manage risk is to know everything about it. Your slap dash approach doesn't even start to cover it. That advice doesn't help him manage risk, that's just giving him reasons to do it and not telling him what to manage.

There isn't anything wrong with managing risks but you have to understand them first. There is also a fine line between managing risk and having a gung ho attitude. Most of us on here have busy roles where a client has done a half decent job of the role spec so the contractor doesn't have downtime however 'efficient' they are so nothing to do with us being risk averse. We are doing it properly with in the scope of the work.

Tip to OP, listen to the haters and make your own decision but ignore the idiots that don't add much to the situation.

[d000hg]

Ignore the haters.[LIST][*]If you're very efficient, you can handle two full time workloads in 40 hours.

No you can't. You might be able to fake it but working full-time means working full-time, if you're very efficient and 2X as fast as everyone else that's why you were hired in the first place and why you get paid a good rate.