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Interesting Tactic From Agencies...

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    #21
    Originally posted by d000hg View Post

    Lying to benefit yourself puts you in the same position as the agent - you're both doing the same thing of saying whatever will get you the business. Makes us as bad as them, regardless whether you say "they did it first". I quite like the adage that if you struggle to explain your situation honestly, perhaps that's a warning sign, and I believe acting with integrity doesn't hurt in the long run (whether you call it karma or simply establishing a reputation).
    It's not lying - it's a negotiating point.

    agent - Drop other opportunities
    me - If you do xyz I will (because by doing that I will have my feet under the desk)
    agent - OK

    And the point is that if he performed the steps I required than I would be doing what he asked (not immediately but very rapidly) because my feet would be under the desk.....

    merely at clientco for the entertainment

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      #22
      Originally posted by eek View Post

      It's not lying - it's a negotiating point.
      For others it is, they're saying "tick the box and ignore it".

      Originally posted by MaryPoppins
      I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
      Originally posted by vetran
      Urine is quite nourishing

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        #23
        Originally posted by d000hg View Post
        For others it is, they're saying "tick the box and ignore it".
        It's worth pointing out I have records for onboarding at 3 different places because I used the very obvious technique of getting all referees forewarned and lined up and making everyone aware that if the references could be done NOW as agreed by the referencing agency, any delay would be the responsibility of the person / firm doing the referencing.

        In all 3 cases it shifted a 1 to 2 week onboarding process down to less than a day.
        merely at clientco for the entertainment

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          #24
          Originally posted by d000hg View Post
          For others it is, they're saying "tick the box and ignore it".
          Yep, I have no problem with this. The demand is ridiculous and unenforceable - they would have no problem dumping you hours before starting the contract if they could find someone cheaper.
          "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
          - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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            #25
            Seems like an utterly stupid move from the agencies in this market and likely to (at best) cause merriment and (at worst) alienate candidates.

            Everyone knows you keep all doors open until feet under the desk.
            I had an offer from a company sounding like "Loyal Bale" couple years back and was halfway through onboarding when I got another offer. Told the onboarding person to stop the process, hiring manager didn't even follow up. They had p1ssed me off by turning up to the interview 30 mins late so were a fall back option in any case.

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              #26
              Originally posted by d000hg View Post
              Seems a reasonable position. Imagine if you sent the agent a form "please confirm you are no longer discussing this position with other candidates".
              This probably something I would try!
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                #27
                Just lie to them. I always say "Of course I'm looking at other opportunities".
                Then when they press they normally ask "so any near offer stage" just say no even if they are. Agents don't like wasting their time when you then go ahead and pick another offer. If its looking good I always tell the agent I'm really keen too.

                Had it this time. Had an interview, was 99% sure an offer was coming. Agent called me after the interview - "no I'm looking at a few things but nothing sorted yet".
                To be fair they then waited 5 days before making an offer. Before this another one came back (it was better) and offered me and I accepted.

                Original agent then was mystified how I could take an offer - to be fair it was 5 days- they were ok if not a little upset. Alls fair in love and contracting....
                Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
                  Just lie to them.
                  Do you not think this is why you have so many problems in your life?
                  'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by cojak View Post

                    Yep, I have no problem with this. The demand is ridiculous and unenforceable - they would have no problem dumping you hours before starting the contract if they could find someone cheaper.
                    Those don't seem reasons to lie. Act professionally when they are slimy, tell them their request is ridiculous. And...

                    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
                    Just lie to them.
                    Are you sure you want to endorse anything PC says


                    Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                    I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
                    Originally posted by vetran
                    Urine is quite nourishing

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                      #30
                      Well you do you, doogie.
                      "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
                      - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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