Contracting in the UK from EU

[lorakeen]

How in the hell am I supposed to contract in the UK now from Europe?
You've seen them. There's an unholy amount of remote contracts available from UK based companies.
Before Brexit, all I needed was a VAT number and all was peachy.

Now? I am supposed to either have my own UK Ltd or use an UK umbrella, and then pay tax on what's left after UK taxes on my NL Ltd?
I'm confused.

[WTFH]

How in the hell am I supposed to contract in the UK now from Europe?
You've seen them. There's an unholy amount of remote contracts available from UK based companies.
Before Brexit, all I needed was a VAT number and all was peachy.

Now? I am supposed to either have my own UK Ltd or use an UK umbrella, and then pay tax on what's left after UK taxes on my NL Ltd?
I'm confused.

Sorry, you're not confused, you've understood it fully. It's designed to discourage and penalise.

[lorakeen]

ok so
UK NEEDS a tulipton of contractors
the local market can't even dream of meeting the demand
so they decide to treat the local contractors badly by forcing most under IR35
and make sure nobody from abroad can work on them
because they've been too stupid to copy paste one of the no double taxation accords and just change the country names?

BRB totally not writing a virus

[ladymuck]

Have you asked your accountant in NL

This might help regarding IR35
https://www.lewissilkin.com/en/insig...ational-issues

The flow chart on this might help but it is geared towards goods, not services
https://www.bdo.co.uk/en-gb/insights...s-after-brexit

It's highly likely that Agents and Clients won't understand the IR35 side of things for non-UK residents so will either not work with you or insist you use a UK brolly to make their life easier. There should still be a a double taxation treaty in place so you shouldn't get charged extra tax, over what you've paid in the UK, when you bring the money into NL but how you account for that, is something you need to talk to a local expert about.

[lorakeen]

Have you asked your accountant in NL

This might help regarding IR35
https://www.lewissilkin.com/en/insig...ational-issues

The flow chart on this might help but it is geared towards goods, not services
https://www.bdo.co.uk/en-gb/insights...s-after-brexit

It's highly likely that Agents and Clients won't understand the IR35 side of things for non-UK residents so will either not work with you or insist you use a UK brolly to make their life easier. There should still be a a double taxation treaty in place so you shouldn't get charged extra tax, over what you've paid in the UK, when you bring the money into NL but how you account for that, is something you need to talk to a local expert about.

I asked my accountant. I got a "uhh, don't do that".
The treaty apparently still exists from 2008 but nobody wants to even try to apply it

[ladymuck]

I asked my accountant. I got a "uhh, don't do that".
The treaty apparently still exists from 2008 but nobody wants to even try to apply it

Sounds like you need an accountant with international trading experience...

[eek]

ok so
UK NEEDS a tulipton of contractors
the local market can't even dream of meeting the demand
so they decide to treat the local contractors badly by forcing most under IR35
and make sure nobody from abroad can work on them
because they've been too stupid to copy paste one of the no double taxation accords and just change the country names?

BRB totally not writing a virus

Agents want an easy life - which means a contract signed by a UK company...

If you want to sell work into the UK via your NL company, go direct and don't use Agents.

[Lance]

Agents want an easy life - which means a contract signed by a UK company...

If you want to sell work into the UK via your NL company, go direct and don't use Agents.

here's a thought, although it is somewhat tongue in cheek....

Would any of the loan schemes work for someone who is out of reach from HMRC?
Double taxation not relevant as no tax has been paid. And these schemes will drop their 'fee' down to less than 10% if you bargain with them.

[lorakeen]

here's a thought, although it is somewhat tongue in cheek....

Would any of the loan schemes work for someone who is out of reach from HMRC?
Double taxation not relevant as no tax has been paid. And these schemes will drop their 'fee' down to less than 10% if you bargain with them.

The one thing I learned since bein a contractor is that all agents are various flavours of scum

[northernladuk]

There's an unholy amount of remote contracts available from UK based companies.

Not really. There are a lot of Work From Home gigs available during lockdown which will start rapidly decreasing as clients return to the office. That's very different to remote work as it used to be in the old days. Doesn't necessarily mean they can be done in another country.

UK NEEDS a tulipton of contractors
the local market can't even dream of meeting the demand
so they decide to treat the local contractors badly by forcing most under IR35
and make sure nobody from abroad can work on them
because they've been too stupid to copy paste one of the no double taxation accords and just change the country names?

BRB totally not writing a virus

That went from being rubbish to being totally ridiculous. Local market can't dream of meeting demand? Popycock? Forcing in tio IR35 due to demand? Making sure no one from abroad can work for them. Just rubbish.

The one thing I learned since bein a contractor is that all agents are various flavours of scum

Bit harsh that.

Maybe it's a second language or just venting on an online forum but I think you need an attitude check. You are making issues where there aren't any so a change in your thinking might make it all a bit easier or something like that.