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    #11
    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    Not really. There are a lot of Work From Home gigs available during lockdown which will start rapidly decreasing as clients return to the office. That's very different to remote work as it used to be in the old days. Doesn't necessarily mean they can be done in another country.
    The future is unknown - while I suspect future contracts won't be bum on seat 5 days a week, I cannot see a time when it won't be 2-3 days a week / fortnight in the office.

    What I will say is that agencies won't be allowing 100% offshored work - if you want to do that you will need to bypass both Agencies and HR departments.
    merely at clientco for the entertainment

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      #12
      Originally posted by eek View Post

      The future is unknown - while I suspect future contracts won't be bum on seat 5 days a week, I cannot see a time when it won't be 2-3 days a week / fortnight in the office.
      Yep. I'd agree with that. That's not a remote contract as the OP is implying though. That said, christ knows what he's on about now.
      'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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        #13
        Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
        Not really. There are a lot of Work From Home gigs available during lockdown which will start rapidly decreasing as clients return to the office. That's very different to remote work as it used to be in the old days. Doesn't necessarily mean they can be done in another country.
        It very vastly depends on the specific skillset. A lot of UK contracts were being filled with EU contractors, and the number of ads for remote contracts in my inbox has not deceased, it is growing as the september rush is starting.

        Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
        That went from being rubbish to being totally ridiculous. Local market can't dream of meeting demand? Popycock? Forcing in tio IR35 due to demand? Making sure no one from abroad can work for them. Just rubbish.
        I am not seeing an argument from you here, so not worth addressing. You might want to consider the fact that not everybody may have the same experience as you do. There are a lot of discussions regarding this on Linkedin, so I will take that as a better measure of the situation than your input.



        Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

        Maybe it's a second language or just venting on an online forum but I think you need an attitude check. You are making issues where there aren't any so a change in your thinking might make it all a bit easier or something like that.
        Or maybe you should consider the fact that dufferent people have different opinions and that is OK. It's a skill most of us learn by the age of 5.

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          #14
          Originally posted by lorakeen View Post

          It very vastly depends on the specific skillset. A lot of UK contracts were being filled with EU contractors, and the number of ads for remote contracts in my inbox has not deceased, it is growing as the september rush is starting.
          It does depend on the specific skill set so 'the local market can't even dream of meeting the demand' is nowhere near true. I don't see a lot of contracts being filled with EU contractors. Maybe a few more while it's remote but I don't see this as a trend. They are there I guess but on the whole there is enough boots on the ground to fill the roles locally.
          I am not seeing an argument from you here, so not worth addressing. You might want to consider the fact that not everybody may have the same experience as you do. There are a lot of discussions regarding this on Linkedin, so I will take that as a better measure of the situation than your input.
          Linkedin is hardly a good yardstick either but if that suits you, but your comments line by line...
          • UK NEEDS a tulipton of contractors - Yup no argument there. And we've got them.
          • the local market can't even dream of meeting the demand - Utter rubbish
          • so they decide to treat the local contractors badly by forcing most under IR35 - IR35 has nothing to do with the demand that you think the local market can't supply.
          • and make sure nobody from abroad can work on them - No one has made sure of this. It's been the way for a long time that agents won't consider abroad roles so not no one is making sure EU resources can't be used. Brexit, if anything, is doing that. Not IR35
          • because they've been too stupid to copy paste one of the no double taxation accords and just change the country names? - Why should they, enough local resource to get tied up in complex taxation.
          • BRB totally not writing a virus - Yeah whatever.

          So even if there are discussions on linkedin about whatever your comments are really pointless.

          Or maybe you should consider the fact that dufferent people have different opinions and that is OK. It's a skill most of us learn by the age of 5.
          You can have different opinions, the way you've come on here like a whirlwind blaming everyone else starts to paint a picture of you and it's not just me that's spotted it. Sometimes it's not everything around you that is the problem.
          'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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            #15
            Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
            and make sure nobody from abroad can work on them - No one has made sure of this. It's been the way for a long time that agents won't consider abroad roles so not no one is making sure EU resources can't be used. Brexit, if anything, is doing that. Not IR35
            That explains all of the Fully remote roles I'm seeing.
            But it's OK, you aren't so they must not exist. Right?
            The world has changed severely last year. A lot of big companies realised they can get their work done without springing for visas etc, and they are taking advantage of it.

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              #16
              Originally posted by lorakeen View Post

              That explains all of the Fully remote roles I'm seeing.
              But it's OK, you aren't so they must not exist. Right?
              The world has changed severely last year. A lot of big companies realised they can get their work done without springing for visas etc, and they are taking advantage of it.
              Fully remote within the UK, as no sane firm wants to enter the joys of international payroll tax issues unless they really have to...

              As I said if you want to find a UK role you will need to avoid UK agencies as 99% of the time unless you use a UK limited company you won't have a chance.
              merely at clientco for the entertainment

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                #17
                Originally posted by lorakeen View Post
                ok so
                UK NEEDS a tulipton of contractors
                the local market can't even dream of meeting the demand
                so they decide to treat the local contractors badly by forcing most under IR35
                and make sure nobody from abroad can work on them
                because they've been too stupid to copy paste one of the no double taxation accords and just change the country names?

                BRB totally not writing a virus
                and what they will do is up their perm rates so British people with no visa issues get jobs back in the Uk.

                i am seeing this first Hand. A very very good salary to return to the Uk from abroad to do some IT work

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                  #18
                  This is a massive threat to UK contracting. Without competing workers from the EU, UK contractors are going to spend a lot less time and money on leisure and have to fill the gap by working non stop all year round.

                  I hope people in the UK are ready for constant phone calls from agents for contract work, what a nuisance!
                  First Law of Contracting: Only the strong survive

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                    #19
                    If you want to work remotely, why do you have to work for a UK company? I received an approach on LI for a role that's in Minneapolis, 100% remote.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ladymuck View Post
                      If you want to work remotely, why do you have to work for a UK company? I received an approach on LI for a role that's in Minneapolis, 100% remote.
                      Old client wants me back if we can figure out payment options.

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