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    Being perm for few months while searching for contract

    Hello, i am not a contractor myself but looking into this field and thinking about switching soon. My question is basically, when one can't find contract for some long time, why not become perm to have some income and continue searching for contracts? I asked one contractor at work but he said you can't do that. Why can't one do that? Is it somehow illegal to agree to perm position if you want to leave in two months?

    #2
    You've answered your own question. You say you go perm for a short period. Employers don't want that. If they see you are a contractor they are going to suspect you are just filling a gap or trying to skill up and will just leave when you've got what you want.

    You also get landed with notice periods from a month to three months. It's very unlikely contract positions stay open while waiting for you to finish your notice. Nearly all my gigs have been interview Tuesday/Wednesday and start Monday.

    If you are worried about no income between gigs then contracting isn't for you. We've got one guy posting at the moment with 6 weeks on the bench and that's not a lot. You need to be able to deal. With 2 to 3 months at a time at a worst case.
    'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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      #3
      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
      You've answered your own question. You say you go perm for a short period. Employers don't want that. If they see you are a contractor they are going to suspect you are just filling a gap or trying to skill up and will just leave when you've got what you want.

      You also get landed with notice periods from a month to three months. It's very unlikely contract positions stay open while waiting for you to finish your notice. Nearly all my gigs have been interview Tuesday/Wednesday and start Monday.

      If you are worried about no income between gigs then contracting isn't for you. We've got one guy posting at the moment with 6 weeks on the bench and that's not a lot. You need to be able to deal. With 2 to 3 months at a time at a worst case.
      I've been helping a client choose some permanent staff, and any contractors who were on the bench were ruled out very quickly.
      a) they'll just f**k off at the first opportunity
      b) if they're so crap at contracting they can't handle a few months bench time then you don't want them anyway. There's plenty of very good perms who switch job every few years to get a pay rise.

      The only time to consider it, IMO, is for a new career, or a very new technology that you are not only going to stick at for at least 2 years, and can convince the client (sorry employer) that you are for real.
      See You Next Tuesday

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        #4
        Originally posted by freddy1777 View Post
        Hello, i am not a contractor myself but looking into this field and thinking about switching soon. My question is basically, when one can't find contract for some long time, why not become perm to have some income and continue searching for contracts? I asked one contractor at work but he said you can't do that. Why can't one do that? Is it somehow illegal to agree to perm position if you want to leave in two months?
        You were talking about going contracting 2 years ago as well.

        It's not illegal to take a permanent job and then leave after 2 months, but if you are already planning to do that you'll find that the company you went perm with will not want to work with you again, and your reputation will be damaged.

        It's the difference between being illegal and being stupid.

        You've only got a couple of years experience under your belt, I'd suggest you need to work for a bit longer, gain experience and prove yourself to be good.
        …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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          #5
          Originally posted by WTFH View Post
          You were talking about going contracting 2 years ago as well.

          off/
          Have you read all his posts to say that? I notice you track what people said years/months ago and try to link the posts to result in a situation that you fancy. I feel sorry for you, really, get a life!

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            #6
            The IT World isn't that big and you don't want a reputation for being insincere in taking jobs. It takes a lot of time and effort to recruit in the permie world and while everyone accepts sometimes things just don't work it will piss people off and it'll certainly make you look bad.

            As above, if this is a consideration for you then contracting really isn't your bag. The last thing the contract world needs is more people with a permie mindset.

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              #7
              Originally posted by freddy1777 View Post
              Hello, i am not a contractor myself but looking into this field and thinking about switching soon. My question is basically, when one can't find contract for some long time, why not become perm to have some income and continue searching for contracts? I asked one contractor at work but he said you can't do that. Why can't one do that? Is it somehow illegal to agree to perm position if you want to leave in two months?
              Yes you can do that as you will have a probation period for most likely 6 months, when the notice period is usually 1 -4 weeks so that's acceptable for most contracts. Have done it before. Thing is you need to find a suitable contract within the 6 months, else your notice period will go up to perhaps 3 months which is too long a wait for any contracts. Absolutely nothing illegal about that. The probation period is not only there for the employer but also for you to say it's not what I expected I'm leaving.

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                #8
                Originally posted by pscont View Post
                I notice you track what people said years/months ago ... I feel sorry for you, really, get a life!
                Keep it up, WTFH. I wish journalists would do a bit more of that kind of thing.
                "Don't part with your illusions; when they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" Mark Twain

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by pscont View Post
                  off/
                  Have you read all his posts to say that? I notice you track what people said years/months ago and try to link the posts to result in a situation that you fancy. I feel sorry for you, really, get a life!
                  The moron is strong in this one.

                  Further evidence can be seen in these posts

                  https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...ml#post2581645
                  https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...ml#post2477522

                  And plenty more.

                  He's only got 9 posts so doesn't take any time to check back and often it helps looking at a posters history to get an idea of the context and other related factors. Many times we spot someone has asked it before or something else they've posted adds fresh information to the question.

                  For example. You may have a good point about WTFH in your reply but a quick scan of your history tells us you are a clueless idiot so we can happily ignore it.

                  HTH
                  'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by pscont View Post
                    off/
                    Have you read all his posts to say that? I notice you track what people said years/months ago and try to link the posts to result in a situation that you fancy. I feel sorry for you, really, get a life!
                    A poster who signed up 2 years ago and has made 9 posts? It took the best part of 5 minutes to read "All his posts", not exactly a hardship.

                    As a moderator it's part of my job to check in case people are spamming etc. You don't see the number of spammers who come on here every day, because we get rid of them. And sometimes someone asks the same question over and over again because they are hoping for a different response.
                    …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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