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    #41
    Originally posted by Bee View Post
    The experience that I have worldwide is that positions are saturated by Indians.
    Can only talk about the UK but even in testing and development a lot of small to medium companies still tend to stick to British resource, especially for SC roles.

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      #42
      Originally posted by SussexSeagull View Post
      Can only talk about the UK but even in testing and development a lot of small to medium companies still tend to stick to British resource, especially for SC roles.
      I was talking to an agent from an agency that specialises in SC cleared roles and she was telling me (and I admit it sounds tenuous) that Microsoft in Bangalore are fast tracking loads of Indians for SC clearance.

      I thought you had to be UK resident for 5 years.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Big Blue Plymouth View Post
        I was talking to an agent from an agency that specialises in SC cleared roles and she was telling me (and I admit it sounds tenuous) that Microsoft in Bangalore are fast tracking loads of Indians for SC clearance.

        I thought you had to be UK resident for 5 years.
        Replacing outside IR35ers with bobs? Can't wait for this to be leaked to a newspaper or two. Grauniad hates the government and Daily Heil hates bobs. Could be a popcorn moment.
        The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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          #44
          Originally posted by Big Blue Plymouth View Post
          I was talking to an agent from an agency that specialises in SC cleared roles and she was telling me (and I admit it sounds tenuous) that Microsoft in Bangalore are fast tracking loads of Indians for SC clearance.

          I thought you had to be UK resident for 5 years.
          IMO I wouldn't be embarrassing myself on a public forum repeating the whispers of any agent on here believing it's even slightly credible.
          'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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            #45
            Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
            IMO I wouldn't be embarrassing myself on a public forum repeating the whispers of any agent on here believing it's even slightly credible.
            Indeed, the agent states that "fact" just before he offers you a SC contract 200 PD below the going rate
            The Chunt of Chunts.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Big Blue Plymouth View Post
              I was talking to an agent from an agency that specialises in SC cleared roles and she was telling me (and I admit it sounds tenuous) that Microsoft in Bangalore are fast tracking loads of Indians for SC clearance.
              Nope - they can't recruit fast enough without trying to play clever tricks...
              merely at clientco for the entertainment

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                #47
                I am fairly sure Steria have been using Indian nationals on SC dev projects for quite a while. I think the deal was they were only "supposed" to see the development environment and test data, and not the live data, but in practise all that broke down. Shockingly bad quality too. But I am sure it looks cheaper on a spreadsheet.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by CoolCat View Post
                  I am fairly sure Steria have been using Indian nationals on SC dev projects for quite a while. I think the deal was they were only "supposed" to see the development environment and test data, and not the live data, but in practise all that broke down. Shockingly bad quality too. But I am sure it looks cheaper on a spreadsheet.
                  I worked in a similar environment.

                  I was required to have SC but the rest of the workforce appeared to have just got off the plane from India so I was left scratching my head wondering how the hell they all got clearance.

                  Maybe, as you say, since they didn't see any live data, they waived the requirement for them.

                  Oh, and the quality was diabolical. I spent my whole time there clearing up other people's mess. Nobody would ever take ownership of anything. They'd say a task was complete but it never was and then they'd move on to the next task leaving me to pick up the pieces.

                  I think it's the only place where I got so frustrated that I would openly point the finger at people in stand ups but they just used to do their comedy wobbly head routine and suddenly lose the capability to understand simple English.

                  And don't even get me started on the quality of their javascript.....

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Big Blue Plymouth View Post
                    I worked in a similar environment.

                    I was required to have SC but the rest of the workforce appeared to have just got off the plane from India so I was left scratching my head wondering how the hell they all got clearance.

                    Maybe, as you say, since they didn't see any live data, they waived the requirement for them.

                    Oh, and the quality was diabolical. I spent my whole time there clearing up other people's mess. Nobody would ever take ownership of anything. They'd say a task was complete but it never was and then they'd move on to the next task leaving me to pick up the pieces.

                    I think it's the only place where I got so frustrated that I would openly point the finger at people in stand ups but they just used to do their comedy wobbly head routine and suddenly lose the capability to understand simple English.

                    And don't even get me started on the quality of their javascript.....
                    Lesson for you - you don't work with them you manage them.
                    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
                      Lesson for you - you don't work with them you manage them.
                      And end up carrying the can? No thanks.

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