State of the Market

[ContractorHardman]

Eh?

You have picked up on one detail and left the rest out. She was managing me which is why I left however I have fixed it for you.

[Hobosapien]

For those considering permiedom how will you counter the concerns by the employer that you'll take flight once the market picks up? Also, have you done the math - being half way through a tax year (assuming you have been paying salary and dividends)?

You sign up to a 3 month notice period and payback clause for any training costs, and whatever other disincentives to move on employers shackle their staff with these days.

[hgllgh]

The BA contract market has fallen off a cliff. replying constantly for days... two calls from pimps... one was for a permie role

[GigiBronz]

Heard a new one today and not sure where to put it.
Have been applying for some time for roles that i find under an agency name on efinancial. not a single call back so i thought to give that lady a call and see how it goes.
While she was looking my name in the databse, not sure if she had my details on screen yet but she asks: “have you been a contractor in previous role?” hearing that i started my pitch with “looking to develop skills, building career and all that sh**”. Shortly after i get interrupted with “it’s because we don’t put forward contractors, clients don’t respond to them, so we stopped...’’.
There could be other things that she might not like about my cv but seemed quite spontaneous.
Has anyone encounter this before?

PS: have seen somewhere written that in times of low demand and high supply they tend to prefer to put forward people that are in a role. Because why fill 1 spot when you can do 2. I would imagine this from their sneaky kind... but could that be true about the hiring managers?

[GhostofTarbera]

The BA contract market has fallen off a cliff. replying constantly for days... two calls from pimps... one was for a permie role

BA like PM roles are now retired unless you have specialised skills

Retire


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[CheeseSlice]

BA like PM roles are now retired unless you have specialised skills

Retire


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Or skill up?

[GhostofTarbera]

Or skill up?

Yes, skill up to a java micro service programmer, plenty of those roles about


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[ladymuck]

Heard a new one today and not sure where to put it.
Have been applying for some time for roles that i find under an agency name on efinancial. not a single call back so i thought to give that lady a call and see how it goes.
While she was looking my name in the databse, not sure if she had my details on screen yet but she asks: “have you been a contractor in previous role?” hearing that i started my pitch with “looking to develop skills, building career and all that sh**”. Shortly after i get interrupted with “it’s because we don’t put forward contractors, clients don’t respond to them, so we stopped...’’.
There could be other things that she might not like about my cv but seemed quite spontaneous.
Has anyone encounter this before? [emoji33]

PS: have seen somewhere written that in times of low demand and high supply they tend to prefer to put forward people that are in a role. Because why fill 1 spot when you can do 2. I would imagine this from their sneaky kind... but could that be true about the hiring managers?

So, you're applying for permie or contract roles? Sounds like you're looking for permanent by the reaction.

I have anecdotally heard that some agencies/clients don't like to take on ex-contractors because they think they'll jump ship when something better comes along. It's not a new thing

[edison]

So, you're applying for permie or contract roles? Sounds like you're looking for permanent by the reaction.

I have anecdotally heard that some agencies/clients don't like to take on ex-contractors because they think they'll jump ship when something better comes along. It's not a new thing

This happened to me several times five years ago when I was benched for a long period after my first contract. I applied for several perm jobs and kept getting to the final interview stage.

You can say you want to make the switch for family reasons, more financial stability etc but clients are often sceptical. I used to say at interviews that I had wanted to try contracting for several years but after trying it once I decided it wasn’t for me. I think it was a valid reason but unfortunately interviewers came up with things like ‘oh you’re just using this as a stepping stone to something better.’

The implication seemed to be that I would soon leave to go contracting again or even a higher paid perm role.

In the end I ended up finding a contract and touch wood, haven’t looked back.

Speaking to a few agents who deal with contract and perm over the last week, the perm market is also quiet, especially at the higher salary end.

[ruasonid]

hello Avance consulting!

Does anyone have experience in working with them?