State of the Market

[BlueSharp]

Can any of the Brexiteers name one single net positive of leaving the EU?

Other than "we won, you lost - get over it!!!"?

Not a Brexitor but the trade deal with the US is a net positive.

[sadkingbilly]

use of the 'B' word in prof forums!!!!!!

[Manic]

Can any of the Brexiteers name one single net positive of leaving the EU?

Other than "we won, you lost - get over it!!!"?

Voted remain but demonstrably the work done to approve the Covid Vaccine months ahead of the EU was a major benefit.

[ShandyDrinker]

Can any of the Brexiteers name one single net positive of leaving the EU?

Other than "we won, you lost - get over it!!!"?

I think that's a rather immature take on it. I think the majority who voted Brexit, myself included, thought that finally, the politicians will have to listen to us. Nothing could have been further from the truth. For me, it's the accountability now more than ever. I accept that Boris Johnson and co shafted Brexiteers with his points based immigration system. However, he was cast into the political wilderness and now the true extent of his betrayal was all too clear with visa largesse, I suspect he will never get near power again, he's far too toxic.

Sure, the Labour party have talked tough on immigration but don't mean it at all. I had this confirmed in a constituency meeting with my local MP (a cabinet member) who really couldn't have cared less that mass immigration was putting people like me out of work, and that's before we even consider AI. No, she was more concerned with bringing in young immigrants who may have babies. Got to keep those public sector and ex-MP defined benefit pensions paid somehow.

The biggest benefit though is that people can now easily see who is at fault if immigration isn't controlled and take appropriate action.

[Dorkeaux]

There has been no uptick in testing roles. Slightly more permie roles but nothing significent. As it happens I have been offered a permie role. I had given up hope at my age 55 and applying for hundreds of them over the last 2 years or so. Been lucky to still be in contract during this tulip show but time to switch. Will be weird as not been permie since 1998 but definetely the right decision I feel.

A banana awaits, upon verification of your employment contract.
The permie "package" and contractor rates have been converging for a while now anyway.
Good luck!

[SussexSeagull]

There has been no uptick in testing roles. Slightly more permie roles but nothing significent. As it happens I have been offered a permie role. I had given up hope at my age 55 and applying for hundreds of them over the last 2 years or so. Been lucky to still be in contract during this tulip show but time to switch. Will be weird as not been permie since 1998 but definetely the right decision I feel.

I think you are entirely right to check out of contracting and find something a bit more steady to hopefully take you through to retirement.

Good luck with it and enjoy the paid holiday.

[herman_g]

Not sure it's Brexit, from what I've seen it's always been hard to land work in Germany without some level of German (even job ads in English often have German listed as a requirement).

Quite possible the B-word has made Germany a more difficult destination.

I managed to get a contract in Frankfurt exactly 2 weeks after immigrating to the UK. My knowledge of German was limited to mispronounced "Danke Shane" which I knew from the song. I worked there for 6 1/2 years.

I found the Germans had a lot of respect for English speakers. B***** actually had no effect on my ability to contract on the continent as I took up EU residence when I saw what was coming to hit the fan. I've said here before, obtaining EU residence is not that difficult, but only got insulted for saying so.

I saw no UK-resident Brits taking up EU contracts until about 6 months ago. At that time, an agent I worked for started advertising for one of my previous clients stating the candidates must be willing to go to a meeting at the client one time per month.

Recently, 2 contracters have joined the "tribe" (group of scrum teams) I belong to at my NL client (one of the NL top 6 banks). Both work remotely in the UK replacing contracters (English speakers not from the UK) who had been recruited for insane money at the number 1 NL bank.

[oliverson]

Voted remain but demonstrably the work done to approve the Covid Vaccine months ahead of the EU was a major benefit.

That 'vaccine' was a flop and dangerous, hence the reason the Europeans stopped using it. Not only that but the vast majority of the population didn't even need it! I had two doses of it and then realised they were taking the piss. So lucky I didn't have any of that mRNA stuff. Ticking bomb.

But this thread has drifted off topic again, first somebody bringing up brexit and then covid (aka seasonal flu).

Hopefully the mods will remove the affected posts and we can get back on track.

On that very subject, it's all gone quiet again for me. I had a sniff of hooking up with another contractor I worked with in the not too recent past but that's gone quiet now.

[Dorkeaux]

That 'vaccine' was a flop and dangerous, hence the reason the Europeans stopped using it. Not only that but the vast majority of the population didn't even need it! I had two doses of it and then realised they were taking the piss. So lucky I didn't have any of that mRNA stuff. Ticking bomb.

But this thread has drifted off topic again, first somebody bringing up brexit and then covid (aka seasonal flu).

Hopefully the mods will remove the affected posts and we can get back on track.

On that very subject, it's all gone quiet again for me. I had a sniff of hooking up with another contractor I worked with in the not too recent past but that's gone quiet now.

A flop? OK, I'll give it a crack, God help me..

It was produced at cost. If you mean a commercial flop, it was never meant to make a profit. And it didn't.
Pfizer and the rest of them hated that, it made them look like the profiteering weasels many take "Big Pharma" to be.
Some people were unable to understand or believe a company could behave in the interest of the world population, some Europeans referred to it as the "Lidl vaccine" due to it's low cost.

If you mean it was ineffective, it wasn't. Something like 81.3% effective after the second dose against symptomatic COVID. That's very, very good.
For comparison, rule of thumb is that if a vaccine is 50% effective the job's a good 'un.

Possibly you are referring to the increased risk of blood clots? That's a thing, there is an increased risk of clotting in 1 out of 100,000 people.
That is not to say that it actually happens to 1 out of 100,000. The actual cases counted in Europe were 222 out of 34 million.
Think of that.. 34 million people in Europe protected against COVID at a time when it was wiping out hundreds of thousands.
222 out of 34 million is 0.0007%.

Mate, seriously..

[Smartie]

That 'vaccine' was a flop and dangerous, hence the reason the Europeans stopped using it. Not only that but the vast majority of the population didn't even need it! I had two doses of it and then realised they were taking the piss. So lucky I didn't have any of that mRNA stuff. Ticking bomb.

Oh dear, someone clearly has NO idea how vaccines work or the danger of spreading misinformation.
The good people of Florida have clearly decided they have a surfeit of children because the measles vaccination rate is down and kids are dying.
Seriously.

I still have a job, but likely to be finished at the end of the year ;-)