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    #41
    Originally posted by GigiBronz View Post

    no, an actual accredited accountant, just checked it with him. they've actually found someone that is happy with 22k per year. if you throw in some overtime you'll go below min wage (which I am sure it is expected)

    prerogative is strong with you old folks
    So it's not minimum wage then?

    And if an 'accountant' is willing to work for £22k in London, when newly quals earned double that, then I'd question if the accountant is any good. Or if they really are qualified - by qualified I mean ACCA, ACA, CIMA and not AAT

    Graduate jobs are paying that (https://uk.indeed.com/Graduate-Accou...eff98855a7e9fc) straight from Uni.

    FYI, this is where an accountant would look for a job (https://www.gaapweb.com/searchjobs/?...ocationId=None) GAAPWEB is the IT equivalent to Jobserve
    Last edited by Whorty; 28 June 2021, 12:26.
    I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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      #42
      Originally posted by Whorty View Post

      So it's not minimum wage then?

      And if an 'accountant' is willing to work for £22k in London, when newly quals earned double that, then I'd question if the accountant is any good. Or if they really are qualified - by qualified I mean ACCA, ACA, CIMA and not AAT

      Graduate jobs are paying that (https://uk.indeed.com/Graduate-Accou...eff98855a7e9fc) straight from Uni.

      FYI, this is where an accountant would look for a job (https://www.gaapweb.com/searchjobs/?...ocationId=None) GAAPWEB is the IT equivalent to Jobserve
      Cool! A job in the Falklands!

      https://www.gaapweb.com/job/4119764/...nt-accountant/

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        #43
        Originally posted by ladymuck View Post
        And who doesn't like a penguin?
        I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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          #44
          Originally posted by Whorty View Post

          And who doesn't like a penguin?
          Russian penguins that migrate yearly to do their taxes.

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            #45
            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...premium-europe

            f we don’t act quickly now to help employers to fill jobs and the unemployed to take them up, then we could be setting a time bomb for next year of labor shortages, higher inflation and long-term unemployment,” said Tony Wilson, director of the Institute for Employment Studies, which released the report with Adzuna.


            “We’ve got a perfect storm of factors coalescing,” said CBI President Lord Karan Bilimoria. “During the pandemic, many workers from overseas left the U.K. to return home. Meanwhile Covid has added major uncertainty.”


            While firms struggle to fill jobs, more than 2 million people are struggling to find work, Adzuna and the Institute for Employment Studies said.

            Long-term unemployment is rising despite the easing of restrictions

            Some parts of the U.K. are disproportionately facing prospects of longer-term unemployment -- especially former industrial centers and inner cities where more than five unemployed people are chasing every job.

            “Many of the people currently out of work aren’t matching up to the jobs on offer, despite an acute talent shortage,” said Andrew Hunter, co-founder of Adzuna. “This means many jobs are lying unfilled and accumulating, inflating overall hiring volumes.”
            The skills shortage is a double edged sword. When you have a skills shortage companies have to scale back and this leads to more unemployment.

            I'm alright Jack

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              #46
              Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
              https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...premium-europe



              The skills shortage is a double edged sword. When you have a skills shortage companies have to scale back and this leads to more unemployment.
              ohh I have a revolutionary idea. why not do a little training?

              Maybe rather than demanding fully trained applicants for minimum wage take on some apprentices?

              Maybe look to retrain within?

              Succession planning and talent development is frequently talked about but rarely done.

              The HR team that love to tell other people what to do might need a bit of help doing their job.

              How many new staff have approached you in IT and explained they have absolutely no idea how their job works because there are no valid procedures?

              If you want to be the big boss the make the big moves.

              All they are trying to do here is get cheap labour again.
              "If you didn't do anything that wasn't good for you it would be a very dull life. What are you gonna do? Everything that is pleasant in life is dangerous."

              I want to see the hand of history on his collar.

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                #47
                Originally posted by vetran View Post

                ohh I have a revolutionary idea. why not do a little training?

                Maybe rather than demanding fully trained applicants for minimum wage take on some apprentices?

                Maybe look to retrain within?

                Succession planning and talent development is frequently talked about but rarely done.

                The HR team that love to tell other people what to do might need a bit of help doing their job.

                How many new staff have approached you in IT and explained they have absolutely no idea how their job works because there are no valid procedures?

                If you want to be the big boss the make the big moves.

                All they are trying to do here is get cheap labour again.
                That puzzled me as well you don't find many juniors in the companies around here(or at least not with that title)...they seemed more interested in getting someone from abroad with multiple years of experience, for cheap, than train someone locally.

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                  #48
                  There are a lot of jobs which Brits simply won't do. Many of them are minimum wage but I'm not sure paying more would make that much difference.

                  This may partly explain why there are a lot of unfilled vacancies and yet unemployment is quite high.

                  I wonder what will happen when the furlough scheme ends in September? There must be quite a lot of people, currently on furlough, who won't have jobs to go back to.
                  Scoots still says that Apr 2020 didn't mark the start of a new stock bull market.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by DealorNoDeal View Post
                    There are a lot of jobs which Brits simply won't do. Many of them are minimum wage but I'm not sure paying more would make that much difference.

                    This may partly explain why there are a lot of unfilled vacancies and yet unemployment is quite high.

                    I wonder what will happen when the furlough scheme ends in September? There must be quite a lot of people, currently on furlough, who won't have jobs to go back to.
                    What a load of rowlocks, who do you think did them before 2004 then?

                    Raise the pay you will be surprised who will do them.

                    As a student I personally cleaned toilets in an old people's home, washed up in various restaurants, waited in various restaurants. I was agency so I got paid more than their full time staff which is part of why I did it.

                    Well if I had been Rishi I would be offering those on furlough access to remote training from the start. I would make future furlough payments loans against future company earnings notice period for those on furlough becomes 3 months. In 3 months many will be retrained.
                    "If you didn't do anything that wasn't good for you it would be a very dull life. What are you gonna do? Everything that is pleasant in life is dangerous."

                    I want to see the hand of history on his collar.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by vetran View Post

                      What a load of rowlocks, who do you think did them before 2004 then?
                      Well, Brits haven't picked veg round our way for decades.

                      In recent years, some local farmers have tried hiring Brits but they found them to be unreliable and nowhere near as hard working as the foreign workers.
                      Last edited by DealorNoDeal; 30 June 2021, 15:06.
                      Scoots still says that Apr 2020 didn't mark the start of a new stock bull market.

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