Brexit fury as EU judges' orders to be enforceable in UK

[BlasterBates]

Always read the small print before you judge a deal.

Brexit fury as EU judges' orders to be enforceable in UK in relation to bloc's programmes

Decisions adopted by the European Commission imposing a pecuniary obligation on legal or natural persons other than States in relation to any claims stemming from Union programmes, activities, actions or projects shall be enforceable in the United Kingdom

Still huge amounts of the trade detail to be hammered out in the coming years, this influence will almost certainly creep into other areas.

[ladymuck]

Having only skimmed the article, as it's the Express, it would seem that European initiatives like Horizon will be covered by the ECJ so in effect the legal side of the engagement will be subject to EU jurisdiction rather than UK? Much like a contract with NASA would be subject to US law?

What have I missed?

[BlasterBates]

Having only skimmed the article, as it's the Express, it would seem that European initiatives like Horizon will be covered by the ECJ so in effect the legal side of the engagement will be subject to EU jurisdiction rather than UK? Much like a contract with NASA would be subject to US law?

What have I missed?

not really, that wouldn't be need to be written into a trade deal for example a contract between the UK government and a private contractor in the UK within the programme.

[malvolio]

not really, that wouldn't be need to be written into a trade deal.

Not really, any contract needs to be clear about whose legislation will underpin the agreement.

And where's the headline about EU "fury" over UK laws being applied to UK-originated contracts...

[BlasterBates]

Not really, any contract needs to be clear about whose legislation will underpin the agreement.

And where's the headline about EU "fury" over UK laws being applied to UK-originated contracts...

For those programmes the ultimate arbiter is the ECJ, not the UK, therefore there isn't a lot of fury in the EU.

[vetran]

hey if they want we can add carcinogenic horse meat in our exports to the EU if they ask nicely!

[malvolio]

For those programmes the ultimate arbiter is the ECJ, not the UK, therefore there isn't a lot of fury in the EU.

No it's not. Even if it were, the UK will be in a position to ignore the ECJ, just like it can ignore every other national judiciary if it chooses. These are about arbitrated trading arrangements, not laws.

But hey, you believe what you like if it makes you happy.

[BlasterBates]

No it's not. Even if it were, the UK will be in a position to ignore the ECJ, just like it can ignore every other national judiciary if it chooses. These are about arbitrated trading arrangements, not laws.

But hey, you believe what you like if it makes you happy.

I believe the text in the trade agreement.

Decisions adopted by the European Commission imposing a pecuniary obligation on legal or natural persons other than States in relation to any claims stemming from Union programmes, activities, actions or projects shall be enforceable in the United Kingdom

As the trade agreement says, decisions by the European Commission will be enforceable in the UK.

[AtW]

No it's not. Even if it were, the UK will be in a position to ignore the ECJ, just like it can ignore every other national judiciary if it chooses.

Yeah, that works well.

[Old Greg]

I believe the text in the trade agreement.



As the trade agreement says, decisions by the European Commission will be enforceable in the UK.

Mal doesn’t like believing that sort of thing.