Ayes to the right 286 Noes to the left 344

[xoggoth]

Ayes to the right 286 Noes to the left

Reminds me of The Charge of the Light Brigade poem:

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
....

Much better idea, mow down the lot of them. Government was much better when you won arguments by slaughtering your opponents.

[GJABS]

The only viable option is a GE.

I don't see how a general election solves anything, as the new government of whatever colour still has to decide what to do.

[Hobosapien]

I don't see how a general election solves anything, as the new government of whatever colour still has to decide what to do.

In theory the elected MPs would vote based on the manifesto that won them the seat. Bonus being that it would probably wrestle the inordinate power away from the DUP.

Trouble is that if the voters were similar to the referendum there would still be a hung parliament.

Though as only no deal is true brexit the remainers, who appear to have grown in number since the public saw what a shambles the MPs are handling brexit, would likely command a majority and therefore ensure UK remains in EU on better terms than any of the 'not really brexit' brexit deals they'll come up with. The EU ain't gonna give them a good deal so only no deal or remain make sense.

[zerosum]

More importantly any option will now require a long extension and European elections. The momentum is draining away from this demented project and it will drain still further.

All the celebration parties and memorabilia for 'Britain's independence day', i.e. today, are in the toilet.

[meridian]

Though as only no deal is true brexit

No it’s not. It was never mentioned by the official Leave campaign as an option.

[Yorkie62]

No it’s not. It was never mentioned by the official Leave campaign as an option.

Maybe not using the actual words of No Deal, but a lot of what is stated in the leaflet (WTO Rules) is indicative of No Deal

"We regain an independent voice in world trade negotiations with independent voting rights at the World Trade Organisation (unlike now)."

“WE’RE NOT HERE TO MAKE A SINGLE MARKET – THAT DOESN’T INTEREST ME - BUT TO MAKE A POLITICAL UNION.” - JACQUES DELORS, 1993

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.ne...hq-mar16-2.pdf

[zerosum]

Maybe not using the actual words of No Deal, but a lot of what is stated in the leaflet (WTO Rules) is indicative of No Deal

"We regain an independent voice in world trade negotiations with independent voting rights at the World Trade Organisation (unlike now)."

“WE’RE NOT HERE TO MAKE A SINGLE MARKET – THAT DOESN’T INTEREST ME - BUT TO MAKE A POLITICAL UNION.” - JACQUES DELORS, 1993

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.ne...hq-mar16-2.pdf

Come off it. It's like if remain had won and were now pushing for us to join the euro and schengen. Sinister and cynical bait and switch.

[meridian]

Ayes to the right 286 Noes to the left 344

Maybe not using the actual words of No Deal, but a lot of what is stated in the leaflet (WTO Rules) is indicative of No Deal

"We regain an independent voice in world trade negotiations with independent voting rights at the World Trade Organisation (unlike now)."

“WE’RE NOT HERE TO MAKE A SINGLE MARKET – THAT DOESN’T INTEREST ME - BUT TO MAKE A POLITICAL UNION.” - JACQUES DELORS, 1993

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.ne...hq-mar16-2.pdf

You’re confusing leaving with No Deal, and the future trading relationship with the EU. No Deal refers to the Withdrawal Agreement.

There is no literature that says we will trigger A50 and then leave the EU without a negotiated exit agreement.

[DaveB]

[BlasterBates]

The DUP have come clean this evening, with a statement that the Union is more important than Brexit.

Basically they've realised Brexit won't work for them. The only alternative they could support would have to include a Customs Union, to ensure they don't end up under a bus at the end of Brexit.

Looks like "Extenshun".