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[Bean]

Americans aren't stupid, when it's up for sale in a British supermarket it will simply have a "Tesco Chicken" label.

Do you seriously believe that the Americans will do a deal in chickens and have no one buy them, because everyone will avoid buying US chickens. They'll sue the sh*t out of any Supermarket that doesn't stick their chickens prominently on the shelves with some misleading label about them being bred in Wiltshire.

You'll get used to coughing your guts up after a chicken casserole.

You are woefully ignorant of labelling laws, both in the UK and the wider EU;

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/food-lab...ntry-of-origin
https://ec.europa.eu/food/safety/lab...legislation_en

but keep posting your smilie faces, thinking you know something we don't, you muppet

[BlasterBates]

You are woefully ignorant of labelling laws, both in the UK and the wider EU;

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/food-lab...ntry-of-origin
https://ec.europa.eu/food/safety/lab...legislation_en

but keep posting your smilie faces, thinking you know something we don't, you muppet

err, what happens at the end of March 2019

The US don't like EU labelling laws for obvious reasons, so they will be modified for a US-UK trade deal.



I find it interesting that you resort to EU laws to demonstrate how successful Brexit will be.

[Bean]

err, what happens at the end of March 2019

The US don't like EU labelling laws for obvious reasons, so they will be modified for a US-UK trade deal.



I find it interesting that you resort to EU laws to demonstrate how successful Brexit will be.

Interesting you personally know the outcomes of both the UK-EU negotiations, but not content with that, you know the outcome of any UK-USA negotiations too? Jee-whiz, aren't you amazing?

That aside, did you not notice there are 2 links there? 1 from the UK government.

Hasn't both the UK & the EU said the UK will keep some closeness of standards to ensure exports to the EU, and thus completely invalidating your pie-in-the-sky, nonsense ideas?

[BlasterBates]

Lets check out the Australian chicken market, who signed a comprehensive trade deal with the US in the early 2000's and what impact it has had on the standards of poultry.

Stomache churning Australian chickens

[BlasterBates]

Anyway in principle I agree that EU law will remain and there will be no significant trade deal with the US other than piggy backing on the EU as the House of Lords have effectively scuppered Brexit.

[original PM]

Lets check out the Australian chicken market, who signed a comprehensive trade deal with the US in the early 2000's and what impact it has had on the standards of poultry.

Stomache churning Australian chickens

I think we all know the difference between battery farming and free range...

although for that article - for a chicken to be called free range it must have access to the outside from the age of 3 weeks onwards..

however most of them are then killed when they are between 4 and 6 weeks

so they maybe we only free range for a week...

[WTFH]

for a chicken to be called free range it must have access to the outside from the age of 3 weeks onwards..

Note that it doesn't say they get to go outside - just that they have access to it.
It also doesn't say they will have access to grass or soil to scratch.

A poultry farmer can call their chickens free range if they open the doors on the barn and that leads out onto a concrete area.

Free range chickens - whether raised for meat or for egg laying - may never have seen grass before they are killed.
...and most people aren't aware of what real free range chickens (or eggs) taste like.

[original PM]

Note that it doesn't say they get to go outside - just that they have access to it.
It also doesn't say they will have access to grass or soil to scratch.

A poultry farmer can call their chickens free range if they open the doors on the barn and that leads out onto a concrete area.

Free range chickens - whether raised for meat or for egg laying - may never have seen grass before they are killed.
...and most people aren't aware of what real free range chickens (or eggs) taste like.

Maybe so but I guess most people could guess that they 'taste like chicken'!

[darmstadt]

But it's not just chicken but a lot of other food products and other trade goods, from cosmetics to pesticides. The document linked to here lays out what the US sees as restrictions to trade all around the world. It wants to get rid of “onerous” rules on everything from animal welfare to chemicals to the import of crops for biofuel. The USTR’s biggest concern is the increasing importance to US trade policy of testing, labelling and certification requirements and “sanitary and phytosanitary (SPS) measures”.

Basically this means health and safety, which, ironically, was one of the many issues that annoyed some people into voting to leave in the EU referendum.

It's only 500 odd pages which maybe a little too much: https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files...e%20Report.pdf

[original PM]

But it's not just chicken but a lot of other food products and other trade goods, from cosmetics to pesticides. The document linked to here lays out what the US sees as restrictions to trade all around the world. It wants to get rid of “onerous” rules on everything from animal welfare to chemicals to the import of crops for biofuel. The USTR’s biggest concern is the increasing importance to US trade policy of testing, labelling and certification requirements and “sanitary and phytosanitary (SPS) measures”.

Basically this means health and safety, which, ironically, was one of the many issues that annoyed some people into voting to leave in the EU referendum.

It's only 500 odd pages which maybe a little too much: https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files...e%20Report.pdf

You cannot feed a growing population using traditional farming methods.

Maybe when no human being is diving of hunger we can start to look at other things?

Or is it okay for a few Africans to die so long as you can sit smugly eating your free range chicken?