New Diktat from Brussels

[malvolio]

Corbyn offered a perfectly acceptable solution in a speech yesterday and there are plenty of Tory MPs prepared to support it, so in the end it won't be a problem.

Perfectly acceptable to whom, precisely? His offer was to remain in the EU but without any powers of negotiation or consultation. And even the most rabid Tory (bar perhaps the idiot Clarke) will not vote to kick out their own government in favour of a rabid Marxist alternative.

You enjoy Cloud Cuckoo Land. Despite the cold and wind I prefer it out here in the real world.

[BlasterBates]

Perfectly acceptable to whom, precisely? His offer was to remain in the EU but without any powers of negotiation or consultation. And even the most rabid Tory (bar perhaps the idiot Clarke) will not vote to kick out their own government in favour of a rabid Marxist alternative.

You enjoy Cloud Cuckoo Land. Despite the cold and wind I prefer it out here in the real world.

It's not what I want, that is what the parliamentary majority want.

fait accompli as they say.

[BlasterBates]

Continuity Remoaner John Major spells it out:

British people have 'every right' to reverse Brexit in second referendum, John Major says | The Independent

Unrealistic aspirations are usually followed by retreat. That is a lesson for the negotiations to come.

Prophetic words indeed.

[darmstadt]

There you have the whole Remoaner problem in a nutshell.

Post Brexit the UK will be perfectly free to negotiate a deal with Eire to allow existing Irish business to continue as before. However the EU rules won't allow that to happen. Even if they tried to set up a one-off deal to allow it, which they won't since that would break their federalist ambitions, then at least one of the 27 would cry foul and veto it.

A nice example of why we will be better off outside the EU bureaucracy, and why it isn't up to the UK to come up with an answer. We have one, the EU doesn't.

The UK already has a deal with Eire, actually no it doesn't, because it doesn't need one. As it is the EU have come up with an answer, the UK hasn't. If you hadn't realised, Eire is in the EU so actually the UK has to make a trade deal with the EU not Eire. Somehow even if the UK is outside of EU bureaucracy, I think you'll find that there will just as much. Brexiter in a nutshell, doesn't understand the EU.

[vetran]

Continuity Remoaner John Major spells it out:

Unrealistic aspirations are usually followed by retreat. That is a lesson for the negotiations to come.

Prophetic words indeed.

He thought Edwina would be a good shag?

[WTFH]

Ulster Theresa says NO!

So the EU draft document has been rejected, but in true Brexit style, no alternative has been offered.
Theresa May rejects EU's draft option for Northern Ireland - BBC News

It's all "we don't want", "we will no accept". As yet there has been no suggestion from team Brexit as to what they do want or what they will accept.

[BlasterBates]

He thought Edwina would be a good shag?

Indeed he doesn't have the vision that Boris has:

[vetran]

So the EU draft document has been rejected, but in true Brexit style, no alternative has been offered.
Theresa May rejects EU's draft option for Northern Ireland - BBC News

It's all "we don't want", "we will no accept". As yet there has been no suggestion from team Brexit as to what they do want or what they will accept.

Barmy & co talked to the UK about it in December, they knew our position, it hasn't changed. Then they tried to cook the minutes to get what they want. Typical slimey behaviour.

[WTFH]

they knew our position, it hasn't changed.

What is that position?

[darmstadt]

What is that position?

"Brexit is Brexit"
"A Red, White and Blue Brexit"
"Strong and Stable"
"Have our cake and eat it"

So far there really hasn't been anything concrete about what the UK wants apart from a new slogan generator