Simple solution to the Brexit problem - stay in Europe AND cancel Freedom of Movement

[Mordac]

If you have a residency permit and you're from the EU, that is your work permit. You have three months to get a job. To get a residency/work permit, the job must pay above a certain limit, and you must have a Swiss address. There are no other restrictions.

For non-EU there are residency permits that do not permit work (e.g. trailing spouses, asylum seekers). An EU spouse might get one of these, but if they get a job, it's automatically converted. No restrictions at all. For non-EU, the residency/work permit may be linked to their employer. Lose your job? You've got 3 months to leave the country.

There are residency permits that allow work, but only if your employer can demonstrate they couldn't find a Swiss nor an EU citizen.

Thanks for clarifying that NAT.

[darmstadt]

More old propaganda bollocks from the anti-foreigner Leavers

FTFY

[NotAllThere]

How do you explain the need to apply for a residency permit in addition to a work permit, both usually limited to 1 year? (There are quite a few to choose from, but then you knew that). Freedom of movement, and the ability to apply for a permit with very stringent restrictions, are not the same thing. Put me out of my misery and tell me which bits of this I got wrong.

If you have a residency permit and you're from the EU, that is your work permit. You have three months to get a job. To get a residency/work permit, the job must pay above a certain limit, and you must have a Swiss address. There are no other restrictions.

For non-EU there are residency permits that do not permit work (e.g. trailing spouses, asylum seekers). An EU spouse might get one of these, but if they get a job, it's automatically converted. No restrictions at all. For non-EU, the residency/work permit may be linked to their employer. Lose your job? You've got 3 months to leave the country.

There are residency permits that allow work, but only if your employer can demonstrate they couldn't find a Swiss nor an EU citizen.

Yeah so they arrive in Greece, get EU citizenship and then can go anywhere.

We have been here before. .

To get EU citizenship (outside the UK), requires at least 5 years continuous legal residence, certified fluency in the local language and often knowledge of the country's history and political system, and freedom from debts. Getting EU citizenship is not just a matter of sending in an application form.

[original PM]

Remember though that this directive only applies to EU citizens, not non-EU of which there are more migrants in the UK than EU migrants....

Yeah so they arrive in Greece, get EU citizenship and then can go anywhere.

We have been here before.

Does anyone have any links to the eu threatening Poland for not allowing any migrants?

You vill obey ze rules or vi vill invade.

[milanbenes]

Thought I'd read a while ago that we could get rid of serious criminals. Not always the case it seems:
https://www.freemovement.org.uk/eu-d...ime-committed/

Just show why the EU is such crap really. Articles should have stated that all migrants should be self supporting without resort to long term benefits and any with a serious criminal record (as defined) have no right to remain. Stricter rules would have seen the EU viewed more favourably.

that's not quite true, I have been on enough flights from Munich and Frankfurt and seen the Police putting criminals on the plane to send them back to their countries

Milan.

[meridian]

Remember though that this directive only applies to EU citizens, not non-EU of which there are more migrants in the UK than EU migrants....

Now if only we had control of our borders to non-EU immigration, a manifesto promise to reduce immigration to the tens of thousands, and a strong and stable Home Secretary for the past 7 years to come up with some way of managing this.....

[darmstadt]

Remember though that this directive only applies to EU citizens, not non-EU of which there are more migrants in the UK than EU migrants....

[xoggoth]

A revamp of our benefits system in line with those of France etc. would help to solve the Calais migrant problem too. The mayor of Calais was not wrong.

[xoggoth]

Their benefit rules are different to the UK

Theirs seem a damn site more sensible. Somebody was telling me yesterday about the Swiss system:

Social security in Switzerland – and claiming your benefits | About Switzerland | Expatica Switzerland

Nice to have a government that would tighten up our benefits system. I don't thing Corbyn will be the man to rely on.

[SueEllen]

The EU will be offering a transitional deal in the EEA so freedom of movement will be continuing indefinitely anyway, because it will take years to hammer out the final deal. In the meantime EU citizens have in any case stopped coming to the UK. Brexit is yesterday's story

The story will be how can the UK attract enough workers from the EU, in particular nurses who are now not coming at all.

Don't get old or ill.