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No To Retro Tax – Campaign Against Section 58 Finance Act 2008
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Originally posted by Safe View PostComment
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Originally posted by smalldog View Postyes but unlike us, these guys were told in 2012 a retro law going back to 2012 was to be implemented in June 2013. Massive difference, they were given advance notice the change was coming, we werent. If we had been told in 2001 a retro law was going to be applied sometime in 2008 going back to 2001 then I suspect nobody would have been using the scheme!!!! Thats the parallel....
But here again, I think they just wanted to test the waters for the concept of retrospective taxation...
Since there was no noticeable uproar, they considered they got the all clear for "full blown" (no warning, 10 years) and large scale (everyone on DOTAS and their dog) retro tax.
Rest assured that the Gov will brush away all criticism and explain to you it's all the same and there is no difference...
Same way they're working so hard at removing the boundary between avoidance and evasion.
It s ALWAYS about criminalizing more and more behaviours in order to extort more and more money.
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Originally posted by jimys View PostWould HMRC offer any time of payment plans?or do we have to pay all upfront ?Comment
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Originally posted by jimys View PostWould HMRC offer any time of payment plans?or do we have to pay all upfront ?
1) many people were tricked into joining these schemes due to lack of knowledge
2) you don't have the money as the savings weren't actually that great and you need to actually live....merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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Originally posted by smalldog View PostIf we had been told in 2001 a retro law was going to be applied sometime in 2008 going back to 2001 then I suspect nobody would have been using the scheme!!!!
It makes me so angry when I think of Parkers ruling in which he stated we could’ve gone to the FTTT anytime we liked, what a, he happily ignored HMRC’s duplicitous behaviour….
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Originally posted by Fireship View PostMoreover we would have applied to the FTTT ourselves instead of agreeing to HMRC’s request to wait on the outcome of the four test cases.
It makes me so angry when I think of Parkers ruling in which he stated we could’ve gone to the FTTT anytime we liked, what a, he happily ignored HMRC’s duplicitous behaviour….
I think that it was a bit rich of the judge saying that we could have applied to the FTTT ourselves after the letters we had got from HMRC linking our cases - as you said.
We know from now on that tax avoidance cases will be tried in the court of public opinion. This is precisely why we need to be a country governed by the word of the law. The law should be there precisely to protect people in our situation - that is unpopular causes.
I don't hold out much hope of us eventually prevailing but I'd love to see the look on Gauke's face if we do. Would they change the law again after a loss in the FTTT?Comment
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Originally posted by bananarepublic View PostI think that it was a bit rich of the judge saying that we could have applied to the FTTT ourselves after the letters we had got from HMRC linking our cases - as you said.Comment
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Originally posted by eek View PostI believe APN (Accelerated Payment Notices) need to be paid within 90 days. That is because HMRC have told everyone you are rich tax avoiding scum rather than the truth which is that
1) many people were tricked into joining these schemes due to lack of knowledge
2) you don't have the money as the savings weren't actually that great and you need to actually live....
The 90 days and penalty regime exists for people that have the ability to pay but refuse or who do not come to a TTP arrangement. So my advice would be to get in touch with them as soon as the brown envelope arrives and plead your case.Last edited by smalldog; 13 June 2014, 18:05.Comment
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