IR35: Planning for April 2021 – should I stay or should I go?

[cojak]

I would like to feedback what I have experienced as listed in my post.

I'm guessing it would be the treasury

I very much doubt that The Treasury would give a flying feck for any of that. They have no interest or involvement regarding what recruiters do in their ads.

Maybe try BEIS for all the good it would do you, they won’t care either.

[IR35 Lol]

What is your skillset?

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[northernladuk]

My observation are:

• Few contracts inside IR35
• Recruiters are kicking their heels with not doing a lot of business
• Recruiters are not putting rates/salary's on adds
• Companies HR departments recruiting again (Employing Direct)
• Price offered for roles are pretty low
• One off relocation fees offered, usually 5k
• Jobs come with conditions, i.e. 9 to 5, five days a week, and no remote work.

I closed my ltd company and now looking for something local, prepared at 43 to take low wage to get into something new.

Does anyone know if there is an official method of submitting feedback to the gov?

I'm not seeing most of those. Mix with majority inside and I very much doubt recruiters are kicking their heels as they are comission based and it's all that matters to them. Not putting rates on is common and always has been, rates seem market to me, I don't see any relocation fees at all and can't remember ever have and I don't see any at all saying no remote work.

Maybe it's your skillset but I find it hard to believe most of those are now common.

[Fred Bloggs]

I'm not seeing most of those. Mix with majority inside and I very much doubt recruiters are kicking their heels as they are comission based and it's all that matters to them. Not putting rates on is common and always has been, rates seem market to me, I don't see any relocation fees at all and can't remember ever have and I don't see any at all saying no remote work.

Maybe it's your skillset but I find it hard to believe most of those are now common.

Despite me forever telling agents I am now retired, I am still getting emails telling me about inside IR35 gigs at about 60% of the rate I earned in my last (outside IR35 ended in 2014) UK contract. The energy contracting industry has almost died in the UK now and the rates reflect on shoring of Asian workers in place of UK workers, a lot of whom have retired or moved into new areas of work. I am very very glad I am retired, the UK energy contracting industry no longer seems attractive from what I can see.

[IR35 Lol]

I very much doubt that The Treasury would give a flying feck for any of that. They have no interest or involvement regarding what recruiters do in their ads.

it was more the whole change i have experienced rather than the single point you chose to raise.

[IR35 Lol]

I find it hard to believe most of those are now common.

I am reporting my findings, if you are ok than that's great, but believe what i have reported from my own experience!

[ladymuck]

My experience, without making much of an effort over the past few months:

My observation are:

• Few contracts inside IR35

Reasonable number of roles being advertised, my network was very reactive when I almost thought I'd be finishing before Christmas.

• Recruiters are kicking their heels with not doing a lot of business

I've never known recruiters kicking their heels - they're sales people. You might not be hearing much from them but I bet they're hounding their clients (that's not you).

• Recruiters are not putting rates/salary's on adds

This has been common for years, is this your first week?

• Companies HR departments recruiting again (Employing Direct)

See above

• Price offered for roles are pretty low

Compared to what, when?

• One off relocation fees offered, usually 5k

Relocation costs being covered for contract work?? That's a red flag if ever I saw one. If you're talking about permie work then it's quite common for costs to be capped unless you can prove you're Jesus.

• Jobs come with conditions, i.e. 9 to 5, five days a week, and no remote work.

All jobs come with conditions. That's what an employment contract is.

I closed my ltd company and now looking for something local, prepared at 43 to take low wage to get into something new.

Does anyone know if there is an official method of submitting feedback to the gov?

What exactly are you aiming to feed back? The fact that you didn't like contracting so quit only to find the grass wasn't greener on the permie side? Nothing you're saying is new but rather shows that you have very little real world experience. At nearly 46 I am not much older than you and am surprised that you're reacting more like a member of the snowflake generation than a gen x'er

[hobnob]

Few contracts inside IR35

I don't quite follow this bit. Are you saying that most roles are still outside IR35 (which would be a good thing if you want to use your limited company)? Or that there aren't many roles at all (inside or outside)? Or was that a typo, i.e. did you mean that most roles are now inside?

[eek]

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Ah so offshore(ish) work.

Sorry but that was one of the markets that most abused the IR35 regulations and so are very much the area HMRC are keeping an incredibly close eye on.

As for your other complaints I'm sorry but I actually don't see a complaint. What I see is the consequences of the IR35 changes taking effect in an industry that completely abused the rules.

Edit - to add a Commons select committee was asking for evidence a while back but that's been and gone now. Your problem is that everything you are talking about (to me at least) confirms it's working as it should.

[IR35 Lol]

I don't quite follow this bit. Are you saying that most roles are still outside IR35 (which would be a good thing if you want to use your limited company)? Or that there aren't many roles at all (inside or outside)? Or was that a typo, i.e. did you mean that most roles are now inside?

Yes, that was supposed to be outside.