Originally posted by northernladuk
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Business class to fly back early from holiday for work
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostOr, to put it another way "If I buy a one way ticket to go on holiday, can I expense the return journey because I'll hopefully be working when I go home?"
I read it as being on holiday and needing to come back early cutting short the holiday, as I wrote.Comment
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Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostWhere does he mention anything about buying a one way ticket to go on holiday?
I read it as being on holiday and needing to come back early cutting short the holiday, as I wrote.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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I basically agree with WTFH.
Two different situations:
1) you're on holiday. You've paid for outbound and return flights personally, no expectation of tax relief. Then for business reasons you need to come back early. You don't have a flexible ticket. Therefore independently of the return flight already paid for, you need to buy an additional one way ticket home. In this situation, I would agree that extra flight is wholly and exclusively for the benefit of the trade.
2) you're on holiday. You've only paid for an outbound flight, as you're basically going to enjoy yourself abroad until work comes up. Then, work does come up, so you want to fly back then. Here to my mind there clearly is duality of purpose, therefore no tax relief available.
If you had a flexible return ticket but with a date pre-agreed, and you wanted to come back early for business, then perhaps any admin cost of bringing the flight forward might be wholly and exclusively for the benefit of the trade, but it wouldn't make the whole flight cost a valid business expense.Comment
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Here's what he said:
Originally posted by bluepeter View PostHi
Im taking a long holiday at the moment for a few months. If a job comes up, can i reasonably take a long haul business flight back early, considering it may cost ££££at short notice.
Thanks
Most of my gigs it takes about a month from when I am first contacted about it until the role starts - if his holiday is more than another month long, then changing the date on his return ticket would not be expensive and would not required buying a new ticket.
If I get offered a gig or interview while I am on holiday, I let the agent/client know that I am currently on holiday and won't be available for work until I get back.
That's why in my first post I asked if he already had a return ticket booked - he says he's on a long holiday for a few months.
If he hasn't a return ticket booked, then no he can't claim it as a business expense cause he's just coming home from his holiday.
If he has a ticket booked and he comes home early, he may have to pay a few pounds to change the date on his return ticket. It certainly would not warrant buying a new ticket.
He is choosing to come home, he is not being forced to come home.
He is choosing to curtail his holiday, possibly to start a new role.
As a contractor you can accept or reject a contract. As a contractor you can negotiate the start date of your contract.
As a holidaymaker that has flown long haul, he should be able to change his ticket to an earlier date and pay a small exchange fee. But what he is asking to do is to ignore the fact that he already has paid for a ticket home (if he has one), and rather than changing his booking, he wants to leave that booking open and make a completely new booking to come home.
That's why it sounds fishy to me.
Perhaps he should ask his accountant, or maybe he'll come on here and answer a few of the questions asked.…Maybe we ain’t that young anymoreComment
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Originally posted by bluepeter View PostHi
Im taking a long holiday at the moment for a few months. If a job comes up, can i reasonably take a long haul business flight back early, considering it may cost ££££ at short notice.
ThanksComment
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Originally posted by Maslins View PostI basically agree with WTFH.
Two different situations:
1) you're on holiday. You've paid for outbound and return flights personally, no expectation of tax relief. Then for business reasons you need to come back early. You don't have a flexible ticket. Therefore independently of the return flight already paid for, you need to buy an additional one way ticket home. In this situation, I would agree that extra flight is wholly and exclusively for the benefit of the trade.
2) you're on holiday. You've only paid for an outbound flight, as you're basically going to enjoy yourself abroad until work comes up. Then, work does come up, so you want to fly back then. Here to my mind there clearly is duality of purpose, therefore no tax relief available.
If you had a flexible return ticket but with a date pre-agreed, and you wanted to come back early for business, then perhaps any admin cost of bringing the flight forward might be wholly and exclusively for the benefit of the trade, but it wouldn't make the whole flight cost a valid business expense.Comment
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Originally posted by bluepeter View PostIt is 1) . ive already got a return ticket which cant be changed, but if i land a contract would have to book a earlier flight back to the Uk, for the sole purpose of starting that job.Comment
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Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostIn which case, as I said earlier, you would be able to claim the necessary business travel IMHO and the class of travel (as per HMRC guidance) is immaterial.Last edited by northernladuk; 30 October 2017, 12:06.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by bluepeter View PostIt is 1) . ive already got a return ticket which cant be changed, but if i land a contract would have to book a earlier flight back to the Uk, for the sole purpose of starting that job.
Are you actively looking for work while you're on holiday?…Maybe we ain’t that young anymoreComment
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