You're probably not going to like this - we certainly don't

[jamesbrown]

BBC brings 85 presenters on staff after being told to ditch personal service companies

[MrMarkyMark]

BBC brings 85 presenters on staff after being told to ditch personal service companies

About time really. Interesting some still passed a self employment "test".

Loved this bit

Jeremy Paxman ,the former Newsnight presenter, who had his own service company, said the BBC “required me to form a company if I wanted to continue to present Newsnight. They claimed they had been told to do so by HMRC."

[malvolio]

If facts supposedly work with HMRC, can someone please convince them to stop using the £400 million number which was calculated before the dividend tax hike?

And if they won't stop using it, can we at least convince a few MPs to start pouring scorn on them publicly for this until they do? It's just dishonest propaganda.

THAT would be something I would think IPSE COULD accomplish.

They've been told. They choose not to listen. Go figure...

[mudskipper]

BBC brings 85 presenters on staff after being told to ditch personal service companies

And that is how the problem should be dealt with IMO.

[MrMarkyMark]

And that is how the problem should be dealt with IMO.

Exactly, except the plan is to make people pay full tax with no employment rights or benefits.

[Fred Bloggs]

Exactly, except the plan is to make people pay full tax with no employment rights or benefits.

That's simply what IR35 set out to achieve. This is just addressing the failure of that legislation.

[eek]

Exactly, except the plan is to make people pay full tax with no employment rights or benefits.

The tax is all HMRC cares about. To them the other bits are utterly irrelevant

[westtester]

A short while back - before all the Brexit furore - HMRC announced worrying plans to radically change the way IR35 works for public sector engagements. IPSE will robustly fight the plans announced in the consultation, published on May 26th, which the government intends to come into force from April 2017.

What exactly is government proposing?

The consultation document puts forward a set of proposals that will change the way IR35 works for public sector engagements. In essence the government wants public sector organisations or the agency to determine the IR35 status of engagements and then, if caught, apply taxes as they would for their employees, through the RTI system. This paragraph from page six sums it up:



For more details and to keep up-to-date on the consultation and IPSE's response to it, visit www.ipse.co.uk - we'll also post here as things develop.

The MoD has already adopted the legislation, causing me and pretty much every other contractor on site to decline upcoming renewals which would have forced us all within IR35 regardless of working conditions or contract reviews. This idea of a consultation is laughable.

Any lobbying for PS is going to be too late I fear and your objective should be making sure this doesn't get extended to the private sector.

[DotasScandal]

The MoD has already adopted the legislation, causing me and pretty much every other contractor on site to decline upcoming renewals which would have forced us all within IR35 regardless of working conditions or contract reviews. This idea of a consultation is laughable.

This.
Those who took part (and IPSE did not) in the consultation on APNs back in in Q1 2014 (how times flies) know that HMRC considers such consultations merely a "look, we let them express their opinions" PR exercise. They'll push through whatever they want to push through, regardless of what you say.

[eek]

This.
Those who took part (and IPSE did not) in the consultation on APNs back in in Q1 2014 (how times flies) know that HMRC considers such consultations merely a "look, we let them express their opinions" PR exercise. They'll push through whatever they want to push through, regardless of what you say.

But IPSE won their T&S battle*

* Nope the unions got exactly what they wanted - it also moved IR35 back up the agenda exactly as HMRC wanted - which is why we are here now...