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[AtW]

Please tell me that's a joke. Server is the one area MS seems to be improving right now, and running servers you don't need to follow the trend even if Windows does shrink a lot.

Real joke (very expensive one) is their licensing conditions for the Server - it's total utter BS that in this day and age for a basic Operating System to be licensed based on number of users (CALs), for Internet usage one would need to buy expensive (2000 euros or so) "External Connector" for each server used, fook this tulip when there is Linux that can be put on many cheap x86 boxes. It's very expensive on per server basis anyway (more than a cheap quad core rack server can be bought for).

They give exception to IIS workloads, but why should companies lock themselves into this (ASP.NET) tulip?

Now Microsoft is fooking about with .NET - stupid Metro took so much effort they don't even have published roadmap for next versions of .NET/VS.

Who do you think Microsoft will milk when drop in PC sales will finally bite? Enterprises of course - same as Intel doing now with higher priced Xeons, but at least they don't demand to pay them based on number of users that will be served by the CPU!

[d000hg]

Have you already investigated mono... it seems pretty crazy to port several years' of code.

Considering 2k8 will be supported for a decade (probably) you seem to be in a rush to jump... what does it matter if MS don't develop .NET further when it's already so good?

[eek]

Have you already investigated mono... it seems pretty crazy to port several years' of code.

Considering 2k8 will be supported for a decade (probably) you seem to be in a rush to jump... what does it matter if MS don't develop .NET further when it's already so good?

He's in a rush to jump because if your making a change in fundamental technology it takes time to do that. In my case its going to take a year or two to remove all MS software from our stack and we've only been going 18 months.

[AtW]

Have you already investigated mono... it seems pretty crazy to port several years' of code.

Yes, since around 2006. We don't plan to port key code (some ported and runs so-so, but we can afford there some errors). What we can do is avoid following to the dead end - Microsoft shafted developers more than once recently: VB6, Silverlight, some other parts they decided to shutdown. It's too risky to invest into Windows long term - desktop at home is ok.

Considering 2k8 will be supported for a decade (probably) you seem to be in a rush to jump... what does it matter if MS don't develop .NET further when it's already so good?

I don't want to pay hefty Microsoft taxes right now - they are going up (expensive Enterprise Server 2012 is licensed to only 2 sockets now, down from 4), can't change that about Intel but at least they sell you whole range of CPUs and don't charge you per user.

Look at what Microsoft is doing now - they are trying to do Apple and take 30% of app sales on their platform (Metro), only that won't work well in PC space - who knows, maybe in Windows 9 all apps will be required to be signed by Microsoft servers after testing (paid), no thanks.

[NickFitz]

The reason for node is a lovely hack. You can send the response immediately to the browser (saying thank you), close the connection and start doing all the database work needed to do to handle the information within request.

I hope you're sending the appropriate 202 Accepted status in that response

[eek]

I hope you're sending the appropriate 202 Accepted status in that response

204 No Content as the end user browser doesn't need any information back from us

[NickFitz]

204 No Content as the end user browser doesn't need any information back from us

Ah, OK.

Sorry, that should be 200 OK