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    #11
    You know, if you can build a Lego set (you can do that, can't you?) then you can build a PC. It really, truly is THAT easy these days. Fair comment about laptops. I buy those but never spend over £500.
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      #12
      Originally posted by Fred Bloggs View Post
      You know, if you can build a Lego set (you can do that, can't you?) then you can build a PC. It really, truly is THAT easy these days. Fair comment about laptops. I buy those but never spend over £500.
      If you're right (and I hope you are), then how would you recommend starting?

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        #13
        Furthermore, is it straightforward to do this for a laptop build?

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          #14
          Originally posted by realityhack View Post
          If you're right (and I hope you are), then how would you recommend starting?
          OK, read up on the likes of Tom's Hardware, Anandatech, Sharky Extreme etc.. get a feel for what sort of platform you want IE- Intel v AMD, then sort yourself a good motherboard using the above sites and others as a guide to the good brands, I recommend ASUS, Shuttle, Asrock, Gigabyte, MSI for starters. Read up about hard drives, memory, graphics cards etc... Get yourself a nice case and lob it all in there.

          Job done. There's tons of "how to build a PC" guides on Google.

          I've never done a laptop build, and I don't know anyone who has. HTH.
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            #15
            Originally posted by Fred Bloggs View Post
            I've never done a laptop build, and I don't know anyone who has.
            That's because building a laptop yourself is nigh-on impossible - and yes, I've built plenty of desktop machines over the last fifteen years, so I know what I'm on about.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Fred Bloggs View Post
              Only the operating system though. This is what I have against apple pc's nowadays. They're packaging bog standard wintel hardware and charging proprietary/designer hardware prices.
              There's no such thing as "bog standard wintel hardware". You can buy a system using an intel-style processor (whether form Intel or AMD) and capable of running Windows. If it's made from the cheapest components it costs next to nothing, it it's a system constructed to the highest standards of hardware design and component quality it costs an arm and a leg. Mac hardware is of the latter variety.

              Given that one is willing to pay for quality hardware, the next question is whether it's worthwhile to pay as much for something that can only run Windows as one would pay for something that can run both Windows and OS X. And the cost should also factor in software: Apple's iLife suite comes with the machine, and is all most people will ever need for handling photos, video editing, creating DVDs, and both managing (iTunes) and creating (GarageBand) music.

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                #17
                Originally posted by realityhack View Post
                If you're right (and I hope you are), then how would you recommend starting?
                It's well worth having a look at the Overclockers UK (OcUK) forums for advice on PC builds. The General Hardware forum in particular is host to many requests for suitable hardware specifications against a given budget and purpose.
                Where are we going? And what’s with this hand basket?

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                  #18
                  If it's made from the cheapest components it costs next to nothing, it it's a system constructed to the highest standards of hardware design and component quality it costs an arm and a leg. Mac hardware is of the latter variety.
                  "used to be high quality" would be nearer the mark. Does anyone seriously expect that Nvidia or Intel specially selects their chips for Apple? I've heard it all now. It' OK, you go on buying your overpriced intel and nvidia hardware, I'll spend the £1500 I saved on something worthwhile
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by realityhack View Post
                    I'm seriously considering buying the new MacBook Pro:
                    • 2.93GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
                    • 4GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM (8GB max)
                    • 320GB 7200RPM SATA HDD
                    • NVIDIA GeForce 9400M + 9600M GT with 512MB
                    • 17" 1920x1200 widescreen antiglare LED display
                    • 8hr battery life
                    • £2,193.99 inc VAT
                    Functional requirements: To easily run Adobe CS4 Master Collection: Animation, Illustration, Photo Editing, Video Editing etc.
                    Non-functional requirements: High build quality, looks good, runs quietly, and like a dream.

                    Please help. Other options should be entertained. Am I just being silly? Budget < £2.5k
                    What a coincidence RH! A mate has just mailed me to let me know that this weekend he bought the exact same laptop as the one you're thinking of!

                    He bought a Vaio just before Christmas but couldn't get on with it...

                    He loves it!
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                      #20
                      You can say what you like about extortionate Mac hardware costs, I think the premium is worth it for OSX. And in my house what I think about computers is LAW.
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