Reply to: Be careful when picking an FCSA umbrella

[cojak]

The FCSA have amended their charter again, in the wake of this week's news, I imagine https://www.fcsa.org.uk/wp-content/u..._vOct-2021.pdf

They've publicly announced it on LinkedIn, which sounds like a slight improvement on how they announced/made members aware of the last change... https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update...2768304742401/

“Oh, oh! We didn’t mean it really!!”

[KUWTC]

The FCSA have amended their charter again, in the wake of this week's news, I imagine https://www.fcsa.org.uk/wp-content/u..._vOct-2021.pdf

They've publicly announced it on LinkedIn, which sounds like a slight improvement on how they announced/made members aware of the last change... https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update...2768304742401/

[northernladuk]

Oh do **** OFF. permie ban accepted.

Accepting bans before they are issued is a bannable offense.

[regron]

Yet you haven't edited / deleted the previous post to remove the link

Oh do **** OFF. permie ban accepted.

[NotAllThere]

Yet you haven't edited / deleted the previous post to remove the link

I've done the needful.

[eek]

Ah, fell for it... My bad

Yet you haven't edited / deleted the previous post to remove the link

[regron]

Ah, fell for it... My bad

[eek]

So that's a pile of insults on a website pretending to be the FCSAs...

Sorry but it really does not do you and any argument you may have any favours.

[regron]

There is also this:

Biggest Ever Fraud In The Employment History Of The United Kingdom - Self Confession Of Phil Pluck

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[eek]

They’re peeved because it was brought out into the open, they probably thought that they had gotten away with it.

there is more to it than that.

What would be more interesting to know is why did some umbrella firms want the change?
Why didn't FCSA's management think about how the change would look?
Why didn't the FCSA mention that the charter had changed to its existing members?

[cojak]

They’re peeved because it was brought out into the open, they probably thought that they had gotten away with it.

[northernladuk]

Because the person who told me about it got it from a third party and I was expecting them to make a bigger song and dance about it.

As for the FCSA article the FCSA audit has a fundamental flaw contained within it (the audit only looks at the details made available by the umbrella).

I thought you were going to mention that one where the cost is so high and some elements which put the bar too high for for new smaller set ups to join but they can't reach that bar while FCSA requirement dominates the market

[eek]

Why could you not talk about it before?

The article seems to have got the FCSA all het up... https://www.fcsa.org.uk/fcsa-respond...mputer-weekly/

Because the person who told me about it got it from a third party and I was expecting them to make a bigger song and dance about it.

As for the FCSA article the FCSA audit has a fundamental flaw contained within it (the audit only looks at the details made available by the umbrella).

[KUWTC]

The FCSA changed their charter back in March (at the request of some members) to allow members to offer offshore schemes provided its no more than 25% of their business. and are understatements of my opinion

Full Computer Weekly article is up at IR35: FCSA defends Charter change that lets umbrella firms operate offshore setups (computerweekly.com) so I can finally talk and post about it.

Why could you not talk about it before?

The article seems to have got the FCSA all het up... https://www.fcsa.org.uk/fcsa-respond...mputer-weekly/

[eek]

Don't see why not.

The aim of any company is to make money for its shareholders. FCSA is a company. QED.

Also Crawford Temple was talking bull*t 20 years ago. I don't see that he has improved since.

Technically the FCSA is a Private company limited by guarantee without share capital - i.e. a closed shop..