Reply to: password manager

[Uncle Albert]

Team viewer has also been great for me trying to sort out an aged parent in a nother country.

For passwords we use Bitwarden but strictly for the under 80 year olds.

[ladymuck]

Yup, same here. The only issue I had was when they thought that I should be using a corporate licence (paid) rather than a personal licence (free), so my connections were blocked, but I emailed their support team and got that sorted out.

I got that too, did exactly the same and they unblocked it. I think they just do it randomly to check people aren't using the free version when they ought to be paying

[hobnob]

For the remote control part, I installed Team Viewer onto my parents' PC years ago and it has worked very well. It's free and every easy to connect when needed.

Yup, same here. The only issue I had was when they thought that I should be using a corporate licence (paid) rather than a personal licence (free), so my connections were blocked, but I emailed their support team and got that sorted out.

[ladymuck]

For the remote control part, I installed Team Viewer onto my parents' PC years ago and it has worked very well. It's free and every easy to connect when needed.

It's gained a ropey reputation because PC scammers use the same software when they're tricking people into sharing the contents of their PC while pretending to be 'microshaft'.

[sadkingbilly]

Notepad and pen. And the ability for you to remotely take over!

yeh, - that's the bit i'm trying to evade, futilely, it would seem.

[NotAllThere]

thanks people, but i give up.
They're all far too complex in capability and too intricate to set up for an ageing user with two machines to locally manage a handful of passwords.
I'll have to find another solution.

Notepad and pen. And the ability for you to remotely take over!

[sadkingbilly]

thanks people, but i give up.
They're all far too complex in capability and too intricate to set up for an ageing user with two machines to locally manage a handful of passwords.
I'll have to find another solution.

[hobnob]

lastpass is no different to all the rest AFAICS.
I don't want SES* to be involved, and there are no 'smart' devices involved, so no sync required.

Looking at the LastPass documentation, it says:
"In the Cloud backup section, enable the Save accounts to cloud setting."
Enable cloud backup for the LastPass Authenticator app
That implies that you can disable that setting if you don't want to sync to the cloud.

Similarly, I have my KeePass database stored locally.
NB For KeePass, the database is encrypted with a master password. So, even if I did have it synced to the cloud, and someone else got a copy, they'd still have to crack the password before they could get my credentials for other services.

[b0redom]

Lastpass is good for one device and the IT illiterate.

I use keepass.

As far as compromised goes, do you mean this? https://thehackernews.com/2023/05/ke...ackers-to.html

Fixed in 2.54. And prior to that your computer would have to be heavily compromised already.

Could be, I can't remember. When I was looking previously I was at a finance house who used KeePass and the compromise was significant enough that they migrated to 1Password instead. Figuring that they'd likely do way more due diligence than I would, I just went with that and it's been pretty solid.

I generally use randomly generated (by 1Password) 100 character strings for every login now, rather than having to remember a handful of complex passwords.

[sadkingbilly]

lastpass is no different to all the rest AFAICS.
I don't want SES* to be involved, and there are no 'smart' devices involved, so no sync required.
just two machines on a home wifi LAN.

*Someone Else's Server aka 'cloud' or 'some other bulltulip'.

thanks anyway, i think i'll give up.
everything today seems to be designed for the people who happily give all their personal tulip to the big corporates for free.

[NotAllThere]

Lastpass is good for one device and the IT illiterate.

I use keepass.

As far as compromised goes, do you mean this? https://thehackernews.com/2023/05/ke...ackers-to.html

Fixed in 2.54. And prior to that your computer would have to be heavily compromised already.

[b0redom]

I know you said 'free', but I use 1password, which whilst it's not free, isn't exactly expensive. It syncs across all my devices and unlike Keepass hasn't (yet) been compromised - at least as far as I know.

[ladymuck]

Being lazy, I use the one built into Firefox. I then sync my Firefox settings across my PCs and mobile phone. Only works for websites, of course.

[hairymouse]

I'm using Last pass, which is indeed simple to set up and use for one user. The problem is that if you follow it's model of generating nonsense passwords for every site and then letting it keep track of them and automatically fill in, then you have to use last pass every time. If you want to access a site from your phone, you have to install last pass on your phone and that's not included in the free version.

[sadkingbilly]

The easiest one is whatever's built in (e.g. the "Passwords" app on an iPhone or "remember my password" in a web browser).

Personally, I use KeePass (which is free), but when I've tried to get family members onto it they've gone back to Excel.

looked at keepass, - too complex for non-techies I think.
I need a setup once and go stylee, simple, basic win10 PM.
thanks anyway.