Reply to: No code programming (end of programmers)

[Lance]

Uhm, you mean the "Routing Table" that you need to create to do, well, most things involving firewalls and site to site?

that's not a proper routing table though.

This is...
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.254 192.168.0.88 25
10.125.0.0 255.255.0.0 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.88 25



Try doing global vnet peering, where the VNET in Japan has a gateway subnet, and the VNET in the UK also has a gateway subnet. You can peer them but if you think you can route to your UK data centre from the Japan VNET via the UK gateway forget it. Cos the routing doesn't allow you to do that. Japan VNET objects will use the Japan VNET gateway only.

And don't get me started on service endpoints...


I mean it's all nice, and makes it easier, but if you know how to build a global WAN with Cisco routers, you need to rethink your approach when using software defined networking.

[d000hg]

I've used a development platform that involves both code, and visual elements you can plumb together to model flow and so on. Actually pretty neat though it is so niche it doesn't save anyone any time as nobody knows how it works.

[vwdan]

you programmers may laugh, but software defined networking has removed most of the skill from networking and made it all about learning the vendors platform.
**Just try finding a proper routing table in Azure.**

This may grow arms and legs and replace a lot of mainstream programming work.

Uhm, you mean the "Routing Table" that you need to create to do, well, most things involving firewalls and site to site?

[founder]

you programmers may laugh, but software defined networking has removed most of the skill from networking and made it all about learning the vendors platform.
Just try finding a proper routing table in Azure.

This may grow arms and legs and replace a lot of mainstream programming work.

networking is a defined process that hardly changes, you cant get code to write new business logic

[eek]

you programmers may laugh, but software defined networking has removed most of the skill from networking and made it all about learning the vendors platform.
Just try finding a proper routing table in Azure.

This may grow arms and legs and replace a lot of mainstream programming work.

It already has. The current project I'm working on is taking days to write what until recently would be months if not years of work.

[Lance]

you programmers may laugh, but software defined networking has removed most of the skill from networking and made it all about learning the vendors platform.
Just try finding a proper routing table in Azure.

This may grow arms and legs and replace a lot of mainstream programming work.

[d000hg]

Who writes the code for the applications for people who can't code?

People who can.

[Hobosapien]

Who writes the code for the applications for people who can't code?

Erm ...

From Essays to Coding, This New A.I. Can Write Anything


AtW has probably already done a DOOMED thread for this in general.

[darmstadt]

Who writes the code for the applications for people who can't code?

[Hobosapien]

I think they'll find, if they use it to a sufficiently complex degree, it's NoCode as in NoSQL. i.e. not only code.

[d000hg]

No code is mentioned by people that don't know how to code.

Well done, you've spotted the core feature.

[founder]

No code is mentioned by people that don't know how to code.

[d000hg]

I was pretty impressed when I tried Blockly although complex logic is still complex logic even if you do not have to worry about syntax.

IFTTT obviously brings very simple non-code programming to the masses and that's perhaps the level this works well at.

[jayn200]

What age group do you fall into? This has been tried every decade since computers existed.

I am mid 30s, first programming job at 22. I actually first learned how to program on a drag and drop IDE so I can understand where you're coming from. I don't know why but I feel like its different this time, could be wrong.

[DoctorStrangelove]

What age group do you fall into? This has been tried every decade since computers existed.

Aye, too right.

It's been downhill all the way since they invented AUTOCODE.

How we larfed.