Reply to: Easter Latin Quiz

[KentPhilip]

Then Pilate said unto them, Why, what evil hath he done? And they cried out the more exceedingly, Crucify him.

Tough crowd

I've had heckers worse than that..

Pilate truthfully said to them: for what evil has he done? At this they shouted more: crucify him.

Google translate has it as:

Then Pilate said unto them, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more: Crucify him.

[Gibbon]

The translators of the King James Bible disagree with your definition of "literally"

Actually they and I may have missed a trick, the two speaking verbs dicebat and clamabant are both in the imperfect tense which is used for uncompleted actions in the past or the near past, but also for repeated actions in the past (I have missed this a few times in my OU work). So a more forceful translation could well be:

Pilate truthfully kept saying to them: for what evil has he done? At this they kept shouting more: crucify him.

Changes the image of what was occurring more in Pilate's favour don't you think?

[malvolio]

**** this for a game of soldiers?

Cigar duly awarded.

"Concuspice" is possibly dog latin, but it translaes literally as "be with Cupid" and is the root of "conscuspience". The other, possibly more classical option is the Latin "fornicate" (as in for-nee-car-tay*) which is a bit of a giveaway.






* Yes, I know, I use the Cambridge pronunciation...

[Gibbon]

The translators of the King James Bible disagree with your definition of "literally"

Theirs isn't literal, most translations aren't as the idioms are different and the translators agenda takes a place. Also they may (guessing) have used the Greek original as well. the Vulgate itself is a translation into the 'vulgar' tongue, basically a Janet and John version which has none of the sophistication or artistry of classical Latin or for that mind the KJ bible.

[NickFitz]

I've always found it weird that if I look at Latin, I can generally figure out roughly what it says, without ever having learned it. This was a fairly easy example... one key word and everything fell into place.

I always felt like that despite studying it at school for five years. Nobody was more surprised than me when I got an A in the O Level.

[Cliphead]

literally

The supposed 'reality' might be more of an issue.

[d000hg]

Pilatus vero dicebat illis: Quid enim mali fecit? At illi magis clamabant: Crucifige eum.

Mark 15.14

I've always found it weird that if I look at Latin, I can generally figure out roughly what it says, without ever having learned it. This was a fairly easy example... one key word and everything fell into place.

[NickFitz]

Yep,

Literally

Pilate truthfully said to them: for what evil has he done? At this they shouted more: crucify him.

The translators of the King James Bible disagree with your definition of "literally"

[Uncle Albert]

Close but no cigar. You need to know what concuspice means, colloquially...

**** this for a game of soldiers?

[Gibbon]

Close but no cigar. You need to know what concuspice means, colloquially...

I can't even find it non colloquially, give in!

[malvolio]

Yours seems to be about some soldier's game?

Close but no cigar. You need to know what concuspice means, colloquially...

[Gibbon]

Then Pilate said unto them, Why, what evil hath he done? And they cried out the more exceedingly, Crucify him.

Tough crowd

Yep,

Literally

Pilate truthfully said to them: for what evil has he done? At this they shouted more: crucify him.

[Gibbon]

Hic militis ludum concuspice.

aka I wash my hands of this one...

I thought it was

accepta aqua lavit manus coram populo dicens innocens ego sum a sanguine iusti huius Matthew not in Mark.

Yours seems to be about some soldier's game?

[NickFitz]

Then Pilate said unto them, Why, what evil hath he done? And they cried out the more exceedingly, Crucify him.

Tough crowd

[malvolio]

Pilatus vero dicebat illis: Quid enim mali fecit? At illi magis clamabant: Crucifige eum.

Mark 15.14

Hic militis ludum concuspice.

aka I wash my hands of this one...