Reply to: Get your brit card

[SueEllen]

So you're alright, nothing to see here, all those poor people can just remain unemployable because they can't afford a passport.

You can use your birth certificate and a couple of other things if you don't have a passport.

[willendure]

Picking up Evri parcels containing precious Temu cargo from the local corner shop then

Last Evri parcel I had delivered, I selected put "Deliver through mailbox" as the delivery option. Got a notification it had arrived, but no package. Hang on, I went to check the delivery image... guy had crossed the street and put my package in the mailbox. The royal mail post box!

[Protagoras]

Killer use case. This will be very important in the future. With post offices closing down there are so few left, and we cant just let any unidentified miscreants in them can we? They are holy shrines to Britains glorious past.

I reckon we'll mostly have our own lockers for delivery of parcels. The courier will have a one-time code to allow access to drop off the parcel.

The will avoid the scenario where the courier leaves the parcel in the wheelie bin which is then emptied with the parcel still in there, a kind neighbour having put the bin out

On a related note, will AI entities need an ID card?

[ladymuck]

For parcels etc I used my student ID which I started having at 16, then a bank card with a photo on it once I graduated and when they stopped being issued I started using my photo driving license.

For right to work I use my passport.

For finance stuff they credit check me.

For voting I postal vote.

For hospital visits etc they check who my doctor is on their computer.

My parents never trusted governments so ensured they and we had passports even if we weren't going anywhere for years. I now understand where they were coming from.

So you're alright, nothing to see here, all those poor people can just remain unemployable because they can't afford a passport.

[ladymuck]

Killer use case. This will be very important in the future. With post offices closing down there are so few left, and we cant just let any unidentified miscreants in them can we? They are holy shrines to Britains glorious past.

Picking up Evri parcels containing precious Temu cargo from the local corner shop then

[willendure]

picking up a parcel from the post office

Killer use case. This will be very important in the future. With post offices closing down there are so few left, and we cant just let any unidentified miscreants in them can we? They are holy shrines to Britains glorious past.

[NotAllThere]

My parents never trusted governments ... I now understand where they were coming from.

One of the Red states in the US?

[SueEllen]

like: picking up a parcel from the post office, opening a bank account, voting, proving you're old enough to drink / smoke, getting on a domestic flight, etc, etc

For parcels etc I used my student ID which I started having at 16, then a bank card with a photo on it once I graduated and when they stopped being issued I started using my photo driving license.

For right to work I use my passport.

For finance stuff they credit check me.

For voting I postal vote.

For hospital visits etc they check who my doctor is on their computer.

My parents never trusted governments so ensured they and we had passports even if we weren't going anywhere for years. I now understand where they were coming from.

[willendure]

Yup, it has no real purpose, and is just a huge risk as it will get hacked.

[ladymuck]

The reason being given for the purpose of the ID cards is a crock of tulip.

If free ID cards were issued purely for the purposes of proving who someone is, for all the scenarios where you need an ID*, then I think most people would accept that.

Now, in order to GET an official ID, I can see that you might need to have the right to live and work in the UK and therefore a logical extension of its use would be to provide employers and landlords an easy way to check they are employing / renting to legit people. However, that still won't stop people who don't care about the legality of their employees / tenants, it will most likely mean they just exploit those people even more.

*like: picking up a parcel from the post office, opening a bank account, voting, proving you're old enough to drink / smoke, getting on a domestic flight, etc, etc

[woody1]

I'm willing to be persuaded otherwise but I can't see how ID cards would make any difference.

The kind of firms employing illegals won't give a FF.

Even if they extended the scheme so you needed ID to rent accommodation, I doubt that would catch many out. The sort of landlords renting rooms to illegals are probably just as dodgy as the firms employing them.

[ladymuck]

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...d-social-media

Interesting excuse for not properly fact checking

[NotAllThere]

KUATB

That's not true, and was confirmed as such last week.

It's my truth.

[Smartie]

It will make no difference, what are we gonna do? Scan their ids as they land on the beaches? No wait, we'll get the French to scan them before they get on the boats! Only an idiot would think this is going to make even the slightest difference.

Starmer is an control freak and ego maniac in the mould of FD Roosevelt.

Why would someone travelling to the UK have a digital ID before they arrive, unless they were processed and approved offshore? Duh!

[Peoplesoft bloke]

It will make no difference, what are we gonna do? Scan their ids as they land on the beaches? No wait, we'll get the French to scan them before they get on the boats! Only an idiot would think this is going to make even the slightest difference.

Starmer is an control freak and ego maniac in the mould of FD Roosevelt.

I agree - except I think this has always been more of civil service project than politicians - Burnham was a huge fan of it under Blair, the Tories loved the idea until it was a Labour one - behind it all is Whitehall really. Different gangs of civil servants have wanted to be the ones to run ID for ages.