Reply to: Local Election Resuts

[SueEllen]

Since 2019 there have been more Tory MPs convicted of sex offences than there have been people convicted of voter fraud.

Makes you think where the problem actually lies, but they do a great job deflecting it, and the party faithful will defend them to the end.

Loads of us know what the problem is...

[WTFH]

Since 2019 there have been more Tory MPs convicted of sex offences than there have been people convicted of voter fraud.

Makes you think where the problem actually lies, but they do a great job deflecting it, and the party faithful will defend them to the end.

[ladymuck]

Tory protest vote.

Agreed. That's unhappy Tories who will never vote Labour.

Similarly, LibDums get votes from disgruntled Labour supporters who would never vote Tory.

[SueEllen]

Christ, who's voting LibDem?

14:45, 5th May:

Tory protest vote.

[SueEllen]

I'm not British (well I am, but not lived here all my life), so maybe someone "local" can explain, what's the beef with Lib Dems? on the cover they seem fairly reasonable, but for some reason they seem to get loads of hate from both left / right. I know they were in a collation with the conservatives, and it seems that since then they've been pretty much banished from politics.

They are everything to everyone.

So if you are in a seat that is Tory - the Lib Dems are more right of centre.

If you are in a seat that is Labour - the Lib Dems are more left of centre of them.

So I could be talking about the Lib Dems in my area but they won't be the same as what the Lib Dems in your area are asking to be voted in on.

[WTFH]

Where is the far right protest vote? Are local elections different and people don't tend to voice their frustration by voting the far right parties in these elections?

The Kippers are down 7 seats so far.

[wattaj]

Christ, who's voting LibDem?

14:45, 5th May:

[northernladuk]

Where is the far right protest vote? Are local elections different and people don't tend to voice their frustration by voting the far right parties in these elections?

[WTFH]

Will be interesting to see how it has affected the number of voters. Also postal voting is an easy thing to exploit.

Does seem odd that one of our most basic functions of democracy is run on British fair play and good behaviour.

And it seems to work very well, contrary to the spin being pushed by the far right, there isn't massive electoral fraud being found.
Did you look at the stats? Most of the electoral fraud is around campaigning. Can't spin it to blame postal votes now, or whatever the next thing is to blame. If there's 1 or 2 cases of voting fraud out of 46,000,000 registered voters, that's not a high percentage is it? Police would be better spending time catching speeders than trying to find the hundreds of thousands of fake voters.

[malvolio]

It's clear there is a strong anti-Tory feeling across the country (can't imagine why...), but from these numbers so far it's equally clear that Labour aren't really much liked either. Perhaps Sir Keir has been found out a last.

Locally - while we don't have an election in Somerset - the Lib Dems are seen as good constituency people, better then the other two at solving local issues, but paradoxically are blamed for poor management of the wards and spending scarce money when there are better things for it to be spent on. Go figure...

I suppose we also need to be mindful of turnout. Only those with some sort of grievance will make the effort and that skews results quite considerably.

But Rishi has a real fight on his hands.

[dsc]

I'm not British (well I am, but not lived here all my life), so maybe someone "local" can explain, what's the beef with Lib Dems? on the cover they seem fairly reasonable, but for some reason they seem to get loads of hate from both left / right. I know they were in a collation with the conservatives, and it seems that since then they've been pretty much banished from politics.

[TheDude]

Tories ceded six seats to independents in my area.

Problem is the independents are far to the right of the Tories.

[vetran]

Voter ID has been introduced to reduce electoral fraud, which we have been told is rife.
Conservatives and UKIP have lost seats.

It must mean that the 40,000,000* cases of electoral fraud in the UK have been carried out by illegal immigrants with fake British passports, or what is the new explanation?


*Of the 1,386 cases of alleged electoral fraud reported to police between 2018 and 2022, 9 led to convictions and the police issued 6 cautions. Over half of the cases relate to campaigning, not voting. But don't let that affect what you want to believe. Source: https://www.electoralcommission.org....ral-fraud-data )

Will be interesting to see how it has affected the number of voters. Also postal voting is an easy thing to exploit.

Does seem odd that one of our most basic functions of democracy is run on British fair play and good behaviour.

[vetran]

Apparently SirKeir is already writing his acceptance speech.

Seems a protest vote against the Conservatives, nice to see the Lib Dems prospering, maybe we will have a credible third party.

[WTFH]

Voter ID has been introduced to reduce electoral fraud, which we have been told is rife.
Conservatives and UKIP have lost seats.

It must mean that the 40,000,000* cases of electoral fraud in the UK have been carried out by illegal immigrants with fake British passports, or what is the new explanation?


*Of the 1,386 cases of alleged electoral fraud reported to police between 2018 and 2022, 9 led to convictions and the police issued 6 cautions. Over half of the cases relate to campaigning, not voting. But don't let that affect what you want to believe. Source: https://www.electoralcommission.org....ral-fraud-data )