Reply to: Is she coming home?

[vetran]

I didn't mention Iran. Are you saying you didn't praise extremist Islamic nations' attitude to crime?

You know Islam is the second most popular religion with nearly 2 billion adherents the most popular Christianity has 2.3 billion followers.

There are plenty of countries that fight crime better than we do (same with cancer etc), some are Islamic some are Christian some I don't want to live in. Praising one part of a society doesn't mean I approve of the whole.

For instance I'm a big fan of the sense of community service in some religions but I'm an Atheist so no I don't approve the whole religion I just help with the community service side.

[d000hg]

? do show a link where I praised Iran.

I didn't mention Iran. Are you saying you didn't praise extremist Islamic nations' attitude to crime?

[vetran]

Only last week you were telling us how great those sort of countries were, the way they treated crime.

? do show a link where I praised Iran.

[d000hg]

We should all be grateful we don't live in Iran.

Only last week you were telling us how great those sort of countries were, the way they treated crime.

[vetran]

If the money should have been paid we should have done it decades ago. Linking it to her release is a political mistake.

She is innocent of criminality so any normal person would support her return.

We should all be grateful we don't live in Iran.

[DaveB]

Apparently right wingers and B****ters want to send her back, good analysis of the Twattosphere here: https://twitter.com/marcowenjones/st...10844190859265

Rolled up version here.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...190859265.html

And as Darmstadt says. Strong correlation between Conservative / Pro-Brexit / Anti-EU / Anti-Woke positions and misogynist attacks and insults against her.

[darmstadt]

Apparently right wingers and B****ters want to send her back, good analysis of the Twattosphere here: https://twitter.com/marcowenjones/st...10844190859265

[vetran]

Apparently it is around £380 million as the UK did deliver some tanks.

hopefully with ear muffs!

[SueEllen]

Well - £400 million quid now.

Apparently it is around £380 million as the UK did deliver some tanks.

[SueEllen]

If there are any, they're almost certainly career criminals anyway. So it would be an occupational hazard, and their lookout.

You need to learn about the US "justice" system.

[NotAllThere]

They don't mind jail, it doesn't bother them, they thrive in there. It's barely even a punishment.

Tell that to all those who've been locked up and sat on death row for years who, it turned out, were innocent of any crime. Or their families if innocence wasn't discovered until too late. Oh, they were having a whale of time, I'm sure.

If there are any

There are many well documented accounts.

Going down the scale, we have:

Ignorant
Pig Ignorant
Jayn200/Owlhoot

[Paddy]

Apparently it was £400m for tanks which Iran ordered and paid for, prior to the Islamic Revolution, which was never fulfilled.

https://news.sky.com/story/nazanin-z...eedom-12566882

If there are any, they're almost certainly career criminals anyway. So it would be an occupational hazard, and their lookout.

Cameron Todd Willingham executed. Charged Triple-homicide and arson. He was a father wrongly accused of arson. He had no criminal record. The evidence against him was a bodged report from the fire brigade.

[OwlHoot]

Notwithstanding that a number of people executed have later been found innocent. No doubt the execution of the innocent is a price worth paying with the exception of if it's your own son or daughter who is wrongly convicted.

If there are any, they're almost certainly career criminals anyway. So it would be an occupational hazard, and their lookout.

[Paddy]

So weird to me to be against a country (USA) executing serial killers... you should spend some time looking up the people who got executed, these are not political prisoners, they're the worst of the worst, they've mostly killed multiple people, quite often defenseless women and children.

... and no sitting in prison is not punishment enough, doesn't even come close to the terror they unleashed on their victims and their families. There is a reason they all fight as hard as they can to avoid their execution... because no matter how evil and messed up they are they don't want to die.. and that's precisely why they should. They don't mind jail, it doesn't bother them, they thrive in there. It's barely even a punishment.

Notwithstanding that a number of people executed have later been found innocent. No doubt the execution of the innocent is a price worth paying with the exception of if it's your own son or daughter who is wrongly convicted.

[jayn200]

excellent stuff. I was reminded this morning how lucky we are to live in the UK, someone was pointing out very few countries we go to for energy have even vaguely good human rights issues. Iraq, Iran, Saudi , China and even the US still execute people on a regular basis we should have moved away from dependency on them decades ago.

So weird to me to be against a country (USA) executing serial killers... you should spend some time looking up the people who got executed, these are not political prisoners, they're the worst of the worst, they've mostly killed multiple people, quite often defenseless women and children.

... and no sitting in prison is not punishment enough, doesn't even come close to the terror they unleashed on their victims and their families. There is a reason they all fight as hard as they can to avoid their execution... because no matter how evil and messed up they are they don't want to die.. and that's precisely why they should. They don't mind jail, it doesn't bother them, they thrive in there. It's barely even a punishment.