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[d000hg]

Happened to come across this which is interesting in the context... Rafael Nadal: The 'tough love' that shaped a 21-time Grand Slam champion

[WTFH]

That coach has produced the best figure skaters in the world, I don't think she will be sweating too much

Be ware of people who don't sweat much and are seen educating/grooming/punishing teenage girls.

[d000hg]

That coach has produced the best figure skaters in the world, I don't think she will be sweating too much

Indeed. That's just how some countries still do it. It certainly gets results if you don't care about the people involved.

[cannon999]

... the winter Olympics.

I wonder if she is going to "accidentally" fall out of a high window when she gets home to get her coaches of the hook?

https://www.eurosport.com/figure-ska...96/story.shtml

Coach Eteri Tutberidze’s first words to Kamila Valieva on her exit from the ice rink after she lost out on a medal in the ladies’ singles were to ask her, “why did you let it go?”
Valieva was the focus of all the build-up to Thursday’s free skate and had the pressure of the world’s attention on her as she skated on following the revelation that she failed a doping test on December 25.

A Court of Arbitration for Sport ruling allowed her to compete in the singles, having already won gold in the team event, but CAS will later take a view on whether she can keep that medal.

The focus has firmly been on Valieva’s wider entourage, with former figure skater Adam Rippon telling Eurosport that the adults around Valieva had “completely failed her” in an interview on Thursday.

Valieva made a series of errors in her routine and departed the ice in tears.

She was greeted by coach Tutberidze, whose initial words were picked up by cameras.

"Why did you let it go?” she said to Valieva. “Explain it to me, why.

“Why did [you] stop fighting? You let it go after that axel. Why?"

Valieva's team-mate Alexandra Trusova was also the subject of stormy scenes after the event, as she was pictured looking angry and tearful ahead of her podium appearance for winning silver.

Trusova was heard to say: “I will never go out on the ice again. Never! I hate!

“It's impossible! You can not do it this way! I'm not going to the awards! Everyone has a gold medal! Only I don't! I hate it all!"

That coach has produced the best figure skaters in the world, I don't think she will be sweating too much

[SueEllen]

I saw a really striking picture the other day but I can't find it. It was one of the Russian skaters bent over in tears sitting with two people. She had a stuffed fluffy dog on her lap. It was striking because it was a very stark reminder that these are just kids. 15 year olds still hugging fave soft toys. They are still kids really. The pressure must be unbelievable. How does a 15 year old come back from all this. </snip>

They don't.

They are just "cannon fodder" who can easily be replaced by the next "up and coming" teenager in the group in countries who have a system of training. They do it with long distance runners in Kenya and the results for individuals can be devastating, but at least they are adults when everything explodes.

All sports need to start looking properly at the age they allow people to compete in the Olympics and other international competitions. Gymnastics had to do it due to the amount of screwed upness that happened in the sport especially in some countries.

[NotAllThere]

I was reading the autobiography of Louis Zamperini who would probably have been the first to break the four minute mile, if it hadn't been for ill-treatment at the hands of the Japanese during WW2.

He commented that in his day, you did your best, and if you lost you didn't fuss and you congratulated the winner. Of course, now there's much more money in it and far more pressure.

[vetran]

Our middle daughter who is into rowing has met a few Olympians and she is very impressed with their drive and back stories. As you say many are just kids representing their country at the highest level.

[northernladuk]

I saw a really striking picture the other day but I can't find it. It was one of the Russian skaters bent over in tears sitting with two people. She had a stuffed fluffy dog on her lap. It was striking because it was a very stark reminder that these are just kids. 15 year olds still hugging fave soft toys. They are still kids really. The pressure must be unbelievable. How does a 15 year old come back from all this. Must be harrowing.

EDIT. Ah here is one. Not the one I was thinking but still

[SueEllen]

... the winter Olympics.

I wonder if she is going to "accidentally" fall out of a high window when she gets home to get her coaches of the hook?

https://www.eurosport.com/figure-ska...96/story.shtml

Coach Eteri Tutberidze’s first words to Kamila Valieva on her exit from the ice rink after she lost out on a medal in the ladies’ singles were to ask her, “why did you let it go?”
Valieva was the focus of all the build-up to Thursday’s free skate and had the pressure of the world’s attention on her as she skated on following the revelation that she failed a doping test on December 25.

A Court of Arbitration for Sport ruling allowed her to compete in the singles, having already won gold in the team event, but CAS will later take a view on whether she can keep that medal.

The focus has firmly been on Valieva’s wider entourage, with former figure skater Adam Rippon telling Eurosport that the adults around Valieva had “completely failed her” in an interview on Thursday.

Valieva made a series of errors in her routine and departed the ice in tears.

She was greeted by coach Tutberidze, whose initial words were picked up by cameras.

"Why did you let it go?” she said to Valieva. “Explain it to me, why.

“Why did [you] stop fighting? You let it go after that axel. Why?"

Valieva's team-mate Alexandra Trusova was also the subject of stormy scenes after the event, as she was pictured looking angry and tearful ahead of her podium appearance for winning silver.

Trusova was heard to say: “I will never go out on the ice again. Never! I hate!

“It's impossible! You can not do it this way! I'm not going to the awards! Everyone has a gold medal! Only I don't! I hate it all!"