Reply to: Get ready to be cold and poor in 2025

[vetran]

Do you think this was a good investment, a wise use of capital?

He does, its his money . He has enough to waste it if he wants.

[DealorNoDeal]

My Father is in his mid 80s installed them in his new house.

Do you think this was a good investment, a wise use of capital?

[Scorp1]

There was an article sometime ago , that the gov were going to phase out log burners

[Mordac]

I live in the countryside where almost every heating system is oil-based, if we switched to electric the grid would fail and I don't see anyone upgrading the network in preparation.

The only alternative is a log burner but I don't see how that helps carbon emissions.

Not anywhere in London it isn't...

[DoctorStrangelove]

Fact, you will be cold, poor and miserable if you are still in the UK in 2025.

Well do something about it then & feck off somewhere else instead of pontificating on here.

[Andy2]

Do all you can but nothing will improve the climate change situation unless big polluters US and China sort out their act.
UK co2 emmision 350million ton/year
China 10 billion ton /year

[DealorNoDeal]

I've lost the sense what everyone is arguing about in this thread?

Rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic.

[d000hg]

As mentioned before, storage heaters, immersion heater, electric car, powerwall and still get your surplus payments if on the original fit.

Those all let you store your energy perhaps overnight with the exception of powerwall. And I assume the capacity of a powerwall is maybe a day or 2's use? I don't run my heating from about June-September so I don't think I can store 4 months' energy for winter. Which is surely when the bulk of my PV energy is generated.

For people installing PV now, are there any good tariffs? Otherwise it seems a bit pointless.

[_V_]

I've lost the sense what everyone is arguing about in this thread?

Fact, the future is Carbon free.
Fact, the cost of energy and transport will rise significantly to cover the cost of all these changes.
Fact, you will be cold, poor and miserable if you are still in the UK in 2025.

[BlasterBates]

I'm beginning to wonder whether the next economic crisis will be caused by the green energy revolution.

[vetran]

At my age, 7.5 years is quite a long time.

I'm not sure I could be bothered with the hassle to start making £50/month in 7.5 years time.

damn you are old. My Father is in his mid 80s installed them in his new house.

[DealorNoDeal]

so £4.5K /£600 is 7.5 years break even. Assuming a lifetime of 30 years that is 22.5 years of profit (£13.5k) not a bad return.

At my age, 7.5 years is quite a long time.

I'm not sure I could be bothered with the hassle to start making £50/month in 7.5 years time.

[vetran]

It's not about annual production, it's about how much you can use. If you don't have a way to sell your surplus, you could be wasting most of what you generate if it's an erratic supply.

As mentioned before, storage heaters, immersion heater, electric car, powerwall and still get your surplus payments if on the original fit.

[_V_]

They should make PVs with built in mining hardware that runs when they're not under load.

Most of the PV panel controller have the ability to read the output and house usage. You just need to connect up and then ramp up and down the mining rigs with some software.

The heat generated can then heat up your private indoor swimming pool

[d000hg]

Crypto mining....cough

They should make PVs with built in mining hardware that runs when they're not under load.