Now here's heroic !

[Gibbon]

As a recipient, I can tell you that, for me at least, the fact it was a freely given gift makes all the difference. There is some angst that some family somewhere are grieving. Even with the notional opted in, a family can still refuse. It just makes them easier to persuade if the deceased hasn't opted out.

[vetran]

I remember it coming up and there were a few civil liberties types who made a fuss but it wasn't widely made public.

Strange I thought it was well advertised (well a few times a day on LBC) and celebrated the change, it was in my opinion a good choice between apathy and actual need.

[GJABS]

The dead have no rights in law, and in English common law no person or persons can own them - Their only lawful owner is the Earth.

Communism lives on, in the form of the dead?

[ladymuck]

The dead have no rights in law, and in English common law no person or persons can own them - Their only lawful owner is the Earth.

So it's hard to know what sensible legal or moral objections those civil liberties types could raise.

The only complainant I remember was this one. Tenuous at best.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...n-opt-out-hell

It seems her argument is partly religious, in that the soul suffers and cannot pass over if death is postponed pending organ donation, and partly "I've paid my taxes, they're not having my body too".

[OwlHoot]

I remember it coming up and there were a few civil liberties types who made a fuss but it wasn't widely made public.

The dead have no rights in law, and in English common law no person or persons can own them - Their only lawful owner is the Earth.

So it's hard to know what sensible legal or moral objections those civil liberties types could raise.

[SueEllen]

I remember it coming up and there were a few civil liberties types who made a fuss but it wasn't widely made public.

To stop people opting out.

[ladymuck]

It already is. The law changed on 20th May 2020... I must admit I only heard about it through chats about some friends whose parents passed away with Covid. I, along with everyone else concerned had no idea either. Bit of a bad job of advertising. I'd be interested to know how many people do know.

https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/uk-...aw-in-england/

I remember it coming up and there were a few civil liberties types who made a fuss but it wasn't widely made public.

[northernladuk]

I think donor registers should be opt out.

It already is. The law changed on 20th May 2020... I must admit I only heard about it through chats about some friends who's parents passed away with Covid. I, along with everyone else concerned had no idea either. Bit of a bad job of advertising. I'd be interested to know how many people do know.

https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/uk-...aw-in-england/

[NotAllThere]

... I also understand how it's difficult for families to handle the fact that their loved one is artificially kept alive to prolong organ viability.

I see it as the body may be alive, but the person has gone. But I wouldn't criticise personally someone who felt differently.

I think donor registers should be opt out.

[ladymuck]

It's such a lovely thing for the parents to do at a time of such loss.

I am in two minds as to whether people should be automatically added to the donor register. As a "take what you want and burn the scraps" type person I don't see why it's an issue but I also understand how it's difficult for families to handle the fact that their loved one is artificially kept alive to prolong organ viability.

[vetran]

Indeed a sad loss to the world.

[Gibbon]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-57113203

Nuff said...