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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post

    it’s
    Could be either/both. PC proves they struggle with their own idiots.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post

    The Welsh Government has been either Plaid or Labour. Neither have ever shown any aptitude for government.

    And going back to Milford Haven, the county had direct and indirect business income from four major oil refineries (Esso, Gulf, Texaco and Amoco) for thirty years flowing into their rural economy. When they moved on, there was no evidence of that money anywhere in the country's infrastructure. It was another 20 years before even that A road was upgraded - and even then it remain two lanes wide. Go figure.
    Precisely proximity, the London Assembly and so on have pushed the government to feed the Golden goose. Apparently you have to do that or they die.

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    And the Welsh government have made representations to change this?
    The Welsh Government has been either Plaid or Labour. Neither have ever shown any aptitude for government.

    And going back to Milford Haven, the county had direct and indirect business income from four major oil refineries (Esso, Gulf, Texaco and Amoco) for thirty years flowing into their rural economy. When they moved on, there was no evidence of that money anywhere in the country's infrastructure. It was another 20 years before even that A road was upgraded - and even then it remain two lanes wide. Go figure.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
    Based on your comments to date, I don't think that's the reason...

    However it's difficult to make a major contribution to the national economy when all your infrastructure is confined to a narrow corridor in the extreme South of the country. There's a fabulous deep-sea harbour at Milford Haven that can take half-million tonne ships and makes Felixstowe look like a marina. It's joined to the rest of the UK by a winding two lane A road. Forty miles later, you get to a dual carriageway. Another 30 miles or so and you reach the M4.

    As for the rest of Wales, there are two major north-south connections and no West-East ones. Hence a predominantly agrarian economy.
    And the Welsh government have made representations to change this?

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  • vetran
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    So you don't think the regions should contribute as best they can?

    Do you think regions should take more money for decades because they don't earn enough for themselves?

    As they have actually said they hate the English my logic seems sound. I'm not that important that the whole of wales or Scotland know to hate me!
    Last edited by vetran; 30 April 2021, 11:22.

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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    Its a valid question, why is the North not as prosperous as London, there are few impassable reasons.

    However areas such as Scotland and Wales that receive a bigger share of the tax take whilst overall contributing less should quite reasonably be asked to up their game so they contribute more equally.

    I don't have a problem with people based on their nationality or culture but on their contribution to society. These people hate me because I am English.
    Or .. they may have met you, or the very least seen your postings on here. Just saying

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    ...
    I don't have a problem with people based on their nationality or culture but on their contribution to society. These people hate me because I am English.
    Based on your comments to date, I don't think that's the reason...

    However it's difficult to make a major contribution to the national economy when all your infrastructure is confined to a narrow corridor in the extreme South of the country. There's a fabulous deep-sea harbour at Milford Haven that can take half-million tonne ships and makes Felixstowe look like a marina. It's joined to the rest of the UK by a winding two lane A road. Forty miles later, you get to a dual carriageway. Another 30 miles or so and you reach the M4.

    As for the rest of Wales, there are two major north-south connections and no West-East ones. Hence a predominantly agrarian economy.
    Last edited by malvolio; 30 April 2021, 09:56.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by Whorty View Post

    Is that any different to Londoners asking why they should subsidise the North?

    We're all part of the same country. Some parts don't like other parts. Get over it.
    Its a valid question, why is the North not as prosperous as London, there are few impassable reasons.

    However areas such as Scotland and Wales that receive a bigger share of the tax take whilst overall contributing less should quite reasonably be asked to up their game so they contribute more equally.

    I don't have a problem with people based on their nationality or culture but on their contribution to society. These people hate me because I am English.

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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    Tell 'em to stick it up Yr Wyddfa
    Someone's in need of a cwtsh today

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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    What is idiotic about asking why we subsidise people that actively dislike us, its not like it has improved anything?
    Is that any different to Londoners asking why they should subsidise the North?

    We're all part of the same country. Some parts don't like other parts. Get over it.

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  • OwlHoot
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    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    Welsh is a very unique language. Most European languages have quite a bit in common, go to Croatia and you can guess what some signs mean, but Welsh is totally incomprehensible.
    The funniest thing was when an English road sign civil servant had to phone a Welsh professor to ask to translate a road sign into Welsh, and now there is a village in Wales called in Gaelic "I'm away from my desk at the moment, please leave your message after the bleep".

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
    Im all for one calling people by the proper names in their proper language. What's the Welsh for 'Sheep Shaggers'?
    Something like "anwybodaeth hiliol" at a guess.

    HTH

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  • MarillionFan
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    Im all for one calling people by the proper names in their proper language. What's the Welsh for 'Sheep Shaggers'?

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  • xoggoth
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    Welsh is a very unique language. Most European languages have quite a bit in common, go to Croatia and you can guess what some signs mean, but Welsh is totally incomprehensible.

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    What, no jokes about sheep yet?
    Only thing worse than an idiot is a predictable one...

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