Originally posted by vetran
View Post
- Visitors can check out the Forum FAQ by clicking this link. You have to register before you can post: click the REGISTER link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. View our Forum Privacy Policy.
- Want to receive the latest contracting news and advice straight to your inbox? Sign up to the ContractorUK newsletter here. Every sign up will also be entered into a draw to WIN £100 Amazon vouchers!
Reply to: Four Day Working Week
Collapse
You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
- You are not logged in. If you are already registered, fill in the form below to log in, or follow the "Sign Up" link to register a new account.
- You may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
- If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
Logging in...
Previously on "Four Day Working Week"
Collapse
-
-
Originally posted by SueEllen View PostSome unis now do lectures at odd times.
But not as odd or as full a timetable as he had to endure.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostWell, the idea of weekend is an early 19th century idea, but it gained momentum, and just over 100 years later, it became the norm.
The point is that change is gradual, and that society as whole gets rich, it becomes affordable. A 3 day week would be a step too far in my opinion - it would lead to deskilling.
Most people can cope with two buttons - Ban / Don't Ban. even 3 days a week.
Leave a comment:
-
I'm not so sure about this
I can see than some people want more leisure time or less hours worked.
Reading this thread made me think about my own situation.
Until 1999 I worked mainly 35/ 37.5 /40 hour weeks.
Then I went into contracting - usually 40-50 hours/week.
Then I bought additional businesses 70+ hours a week.
Then Feb 2018 (Some people here know what happened) happened.
Then retirement for 3 months.
Then I went back to work.
I am mostly successful in limiting my work to 30 hours week. I did this by changing a lot of things around and outsourcing even more.
The key thing is depending on other people I can be much more productive in those 30 hours than I sometimes was racking up 70+ hours/week. This only works if there isn't a workshy die hard card carrying member of a trade union anywhere near anything I am doing - a small drawback.
I remember working on a project with a big 4 consultancy. These guys (perms) would arrive before 7 am and some would not leave until near midnight. This was every day. The contractors were generally arriving between 8 and 9 am and finishing about 6. I did often wonder what they were doing in the other hours aside of presenteeism to bump up billable hours for the employer.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by darmstadt View PostMy first job was 16 hour shifts from 8 - 24. You would work Mon, Wed and Fri, weekend free then Tue and Thu. This then changed to 8 hour shifts, 3 days and 2 nights followed by 2 days and 3 nights plus you had to be 15 minutes early and stay 15 minutes late for tulip handover. We then changed to 12 hour shifts...
Leave a comment:
-
My first job was 16 hour shifts from 8 - 24. You would work Mon, Wed and Fri, weekend free then Tue and Thu. This then changed to 8 hour shifts, 3 days and 2 nights followed by 2 days and 3 nights plus you had to be 15 minutes early and stay 15 minutes late for tulip handover. We then changed to 12 hour shifts...
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by d000hg View PostWhen did we work a 6-day week as standard, surely not anytime recently?
The accepted working week has been slowly falling of course, 40 to 37.5 to 35 which is now common and I think our French friends are even lower.
But changing from 5 shorter days back to 4 long ones, not sure about that. Surely increased worker flexibility favours the former - flexitime and so?
The point is that change is gradual, and that society as whole gets rich, it becomes affordable. A 3 day week would be a step too far in my opinion - it would lead to deskilling.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by DoctorStrangelove View PostIIRC my dad worked a 5.5 day week in the 40s & 50s.
The half day was the early closing (Thursday as it happens).
Probably 44 hours/week.
My mate had 5.5 days/week in Uni back in the 60s.
The joy of scientific German on Saturday morning must have been overwhelming for all those so involved.
Leave a comment:
-
IIRC my dad worked a 5.5 day week in the 40s & 50s.
The half day was the early closing (Thursday as it happens).
Probably 44 hours/week.
My mate had 5.5 days/week in Uni back in the 60s.
The joy of scientific German on Saturday morning must have been overwhelming for all those so involved.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostThat's not how it works. You get paid the same salary, but instead of working a 40 hour week (say), you work a 32 hour week.
There will be many arguments against it, but how do you think we largely changed from a 6 day working week to a 5 day working week? Of course, that only meant a daily increase of 16% instead of 20%.
The accepted working week has been slowly falling of course, 40 to 37.5 to 35 which is now common and I think our French friends are even lower.
But changing from 5 shorter days back to 4 long ones, not sure about that. Surely increased worker flexibility favours the former - flexitime and so?
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by d000hg View PostReduced working weeks are the way forward. 4 days is great, if you can afford it which basically means those earning a lot.
There will be many arguments against it, but how do you think we largely changed from a 6 day working week to a 5 day working week? Of course, that only meant a daily increase of 16% instead of 20%.
Leave a comment:
-
Post COVID, you should be extremely glad if you earn enough for the tax to be a lot!
Leave a comment:
-
We can expect large pay reductions regardless on commodity jobs.
Post COVID there are going to be lots of people without jobs and they are not cutting furlough enough for people to convert to universal credit happily.
Specialists will have more bargaining power - hopefully.
Whatever happens get used to HMRC wearing rubber gloves.
Leave a comment:
-
Entitled thinking you should get 25% more for no reason.
Nobody says you can only have one contract, what are you a permie?
Leave a comment:
-
its bad news for contractors unless they jack up the rates by 25% which is not going to happen
Leave a comment:
- Home
- News & Features
- First Timers
- IR35 / S660 / BN66
- Employee Benefit Trusts
- Agency Workers Regulations
- MSC Legislation
- Limited Companies
- Dividends
- Umbrella Company
- VAT / Flat Rate VAT
- Job News & Guides
- Money News & Guides
- Guide to Contracts
- Successful Contracting
- Contracting Overseas
- Contractor Calculators
- MVL
- Contractor Expenses
Advertisers
Contractor Services
CUK News
- Streamline Your Retirement with iSIPP: A Solution for Contractor Pensions Sep 1 09:13
- Making the most of pension lump sums: overview for contractors Sep 1 08:36
- Umbrella company tribunal cases are opening up; are your wages subject to unlawful deductions, too? Aug 31 08:38
- Contractors, relabelling 'labour' as 'services' to appear 'fully contracted out' won't dupe IR35 inspectors Aug 31 08:30
- How often does HMRC check tax returns? Aug 30 08:27
- Work-life balance as an IT contractor: 5 top tips from a tech recruiter Aug 30 08:20
- Autumn Statement 2023 tipped to prioritise mental health, in a boost for UK workplaces Aug 29 08:33
- Final reminder for contractors to respond to the umbrella consultation (closing today) Aug 29 08:09
- Top 5 most in demand cyber security contract roles Aug 25 08:38
- Changes to the right to request flexible working are incoming, but how will contractors be affected? Aug 24 08:25
Leave a comment: