Reply to: LGBT vs trans at pride march

[cojak]

The trans people I’ve met are normal - they don’t force any one to do anything. Force or coercion is rape.

[glebe digital]

If anything's depressing it's lesbians being thrown under the diversity bus. The protesters had a very good point re: gender rights & have been branded 'disgusting' for raising a perfectly legitimate issue.

What I really don't get is why a male (who likes women) would choose to have an op so 'he' can assume the position of a lesbian.....if that's not a mental health issue I don't know what is, and to attack lesbians as being trans-phobic for not wanting to simulate with re-engineered males is pretty ugly stuff really.

[Bean]

I think a womb is still required. While we might one day be able to create those too, disposing of men seems far more technically feasible than women. Probably better too, men are jerks.

Well, tennis matches would be over quicker and athletics would take longer - is that what you really want!!???

Besides, now they have the equality act, women can be jerks too - see; Mel Phillips, Katie Hopkins, etc.

[GreenMirror]

Probably better too, men are jerks.

Composition or inheritance?

[Bean]

The use of phrases such as "pillow biter" and the insinuation that being trans is simply a mental disorder.

Well up until last month, it was scientifically classified, explicitly as a mental health disorder by the WHO
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/2...ion/717758002/

Now it is described as a sexual health condition.

The NHS seems to be implying gender dysphoria may, some of the time, be caused by improper hormone function/levels during foetal development: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-dysphoria/

Yes, that phrase can be hurtful, but 1 person on 1 thread of 1 forum - is hardly enough to trigger depression is it?

[d000hg]

or .. all male population with no females:

"Within a decade or two, researchers say, scientists will likely be able to create a baby from human skin cells.
The process, in vitro gametogenesis, or I.V.G., so far has been used only in mice.
With I.V.G., two men could have a baby that was biologically related to both of them, by using skin cells from one to make an egg that would be fertilized by sperm from the other."
May 2017

I think a womb is still required. While we might one day be able to create those too, disposing of men seems far more technically feasible than women. Probably better too, men are jerks.

[vetran]

Yeah I had a discussion about this at work - it was really difficult trying to get these people to understand that I do not want another set of cock n balls in my love life.

NLyUK has enough genitalia for any man?

[original PM]

Who insinuated that? IMO all the attention and legislation they are getting is actually creating trans-phobia where it otherwise wouldn't exist.

This thread is about men trying to shame (and force) lesbian women into dating them by 'identifying' as women. And when the lesbians protest against this the LGBT/pride movement takes the side of the trans men/women.

I've heard elsewhere that trans people demand that people sleep with them and turning them down is trans-phobia/discrimination.

Also - call me cynical but I think there are a fair few people identifying as trans because it's trendy, get's them a lot of attention and as we are seeing quite a lot of power which they are clearly trying to abuse in this case.

Yeah I had a discussion about this at work - it was really difficult trying to get these people to understand that I do not want another set of cock n balls in my love life.

[Jog On]

The use of phrases such as "pillow biter" and the insinuation that being trans is simply a mental disorder.

Who insinuated that? IMO all the attention and legislation they are getting is actually creating trans-phobia where it otherwise wouldn't exist.

This thread is about men trying to shame (and force) lesbian women into dating them by 'identifying' as women. And when the lesbians protest against this the LGBT/pride movement takes the side of the trans men/women.

I've heard elsewhere that trans people demand that people sleep with them and turning them down is trans-phobia/discrimination.

Also - call me cynical but I think there are a fair few people identifying as trans because it's trendy, get's them a lot of attention and as we are seeing quite a lot of power which they are clearly trying to abuse in this case.

[Lance]

The use of phrases such as "pillow biter" and the insinuation that being trans is simply a mental disorder.

let's look at it objectively.

Intersex is a medical condition where someone is born as not really male or female. They often have surgical intervention to resolve.

Wanting to have that surgery to suit your mind is something in your mind. Is it a disorder? It's not 'usual'. Depression affects more people than being trans but is classed as a mental health disorder.
What bit of being trans is NOT a mental disorder?

Pillow biter is just funny. Like fudge packer. Or drinking from the hairy cup.

For reference I am happy with Ls, Gs, Bs, Ts, Qs, Is, whatevers, as it's basically none of my business how people live their life. But to suggest that some of what's going on with identity politics (that's what we're talking about really isn't it?) is normal/correct/expected is way off the mark.

[Zigenare]

The use of phrases such as "pillow biter" and the insinuation that being trans is simply a mental disorder.

So you were "virtue signalling".

Bless.

[vwdan]

Why is this thread depressing to you?

The use of phrases such as "pillow biter" and the insinuation that being trans is simply a mental disorder.

[Bean]

Not really. Got better things to do with my time than discuss with people who use phrases like virtue signalling unironically.

You haven't discussed anything with anyone else in the thread either (who haven't used that phrase)

Let's see if we can change this...


Why is this thread depressing to you?

[Zigenare]

Not really. Got better things to do with my time than discuss with people who use phrases like virtue signalling unironically.

"virtue signalling" is my polite way of saying "being a twunt".

Apologies for any confusion.

[vwdan]

So, you don't have a point.

Not really. Got better things to do with my time than discuss with people who use phrases like virtue signalling unironically.