Reply to: IndyRef2 : This time it's war!

[sadkingbilly]

So let me get this straight

that'll be the day

[_V_]

If Scottish people really want independence they need to protest, block roads, throw paint, cause massive disruption to England, like the eco heroes do.

[Paralytic]

Most richer people [in Scotland] earn via an England Limited Company, so the figures are heavily skewed right now. It needs broken down.

Citation/evidence please, or I'm calling this out as BS.

[vetran]

So let me get this straight a country leader of a country that is part of an economic, social and legal union of countries is surprised they have to ask the bill payers permission? Especially as that is what they did last time?

[Zigenare]

If she loses she should let MF give her a good seeing to.

So you reckon there's no truth in the rumour regarding wee nippy and that bird from the French Embassy?

[jamesbrown]

Realistically, the SNP will be very pleased

[Paddy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-63701835



Denied!

Rather a mashed up judgment when taking into consideration that the only reason why the dodgy Brexit referendum result was not declared voidby the court was the the court said the referendum was only advisory.

[SimonMac]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-63701835

The Scotland Act gives the Scottish Parliament limited powers."

The Scottish Parliament has no powers to legislate where matters are reserved to the UK parliament, including the union between Scotland and England.

Lord Reed explains if legislation relates to the union or to the Westminster parliament then the Scottish parliament has no power to enact it.

Denied!

[d000hg]

If she wants to get Scotland to leave, she should ask for the whole of the UK to have a vote.

She wants to do a "Boris Brexit". Campaign to leave, narrowly lose then whine about it....

Last time I checked, Leave won?

[SimonMac]

#ScottishIndependence3 is now trending, have I missed the second? Is it best two out of three wins?

[TestMangler]

I should have worded it with additional "...if you want to get any contract signed."

Up until 2018 you had sod all chance of getting an agency to agree to have a Scottish Ltd Company provide PSC equivalent services. I know two people who had to set up English Ltd Companies instead. Agents being quick to ask if I had a Scottish Ltd Company and that they hoped not, prior to contractor friends having issues, suggested it wasn't a good idea.

As a guess, I expect many end clients were based in England and even Scottish agencies having formed English Ltd Companies resulting in domains being rightly or wrongly limited to England only.

I contracted from 1994-2016 with a Scottish Ltd Company and was never once asked this question and don't recall it ever even being a point to be discussed.

[agentzero]

Not quite, it's all above board and the usual payment route everybody decent person uses. I was astounded to learn that my total remuneration isn't included in the figures that are allocated to Scottish tax payers. The last few years I've entered the higher rate, due to taking more dividends. I and every PSC contractor in Scotland who uses an England based Limited Company is not counted as a higher rate taxpayer by the ONS. This applies to any size of Limited Company. If you consider the number of people this applies to, it's easy to see that the current system of calculating how many higher rate Scottish taxpayers there are is lowball and inaccurate. It's a statistical error that is not an accident.

It affects any future referendum, as we're all lumped into English tax stats instead of Scottish. Most richer people earn via an England Limited Company, so the figures are heavily skewed right now. It needs broken down.

[ladymuck]

In what way am I forgetting? Monies paid in dividends and a salary not attracting NICs aren't registered in Scotland for a Limited Co based in England. The dividends I receive from the Ltd Co registered in England are considered to be based at the company address: Accountant address that must be in England.

I'm fully aware that taxes are treated differently based on location of the individual, but the figures for those of us receiving monies from a Ltd Co based in England are not included in tax-take and distribution within Scotland in UK gov reports. 'Higher Earners' section excludes us, as we're paid in dividends. If we paid ourselves remuneration only by PAYE then we would appear on the list of higher earners in Scotland.

So you're saying you are resident in Scotland yet pay English tax rates on income you draw?

Sounds a bit tax fraudy to me

[ladymuck]

Four agencies I've worked with have specifically told that if my company is a Scottish Ltd Co then it's a no-go. Date range 2014 to 2018. Includes larger groups such as Hays and TekSystems/Allegis Group.

I'm suggesting that agencies registered as English Ltd Cos and/or clients registered as English Ltd Cos didn't want to have a Scottish Ltd Co as the contractor. I don't see why clients would care, as it's a b2b contract with the agency for them, so I assume some agencies had a blanket policy for reasons unknown to me. If you can expand, such as you not having this issue, then that's helpful. I know people who have purposefully registered an English Ltd Co and the associated hassle, such as mail forwarding address required or an accountant with an address in England, to ensure they can apply for the contracts that demanded an English registered Ltd Co.

Being registered in Scotland means that operation of the company is liable to Scottish law, not English. There are some quirks in the Scottish legal system that are probably make things a bit more complicated.

[Mordac]

For PSCs this doesn't apply. Salary is the same as yours. For most here it's £8840 + dividends of £41430.

Are you from Brigadoon, by any chance?