Reply to: Swiss role and agency

[vetran]

If a counter offer has been made you haven't suddenly become more valuable, It’s because your manager doesn’t want to deal with the work disruption your departure could create.

They are going to want their moneys worth and your promotion prospects are shot. As well as the Swiss, Peoplesoft remembers.

Also working in another country such as Switzerland may well make you attractive to future employers.

[clearedforlanding]

Never.

If a counter offer has been made you haven't suddenly become more valuable, It’s because your manager doesn’t want to deal with the work disruption your departure could create.

They are going to want their moneys worth and your promotion prospects are shot. As well as the Swiss, Peoplesoft remembers.

[MrMarkyMark]

FTFY

Swiss don't forget about anything, apart from lost artworks and gold..

[BlasterBates]

People have a right to give short notice for the probationary period in Switzerland, so I can't see him being billed, obviously his name will be mud with the bank. HR will make a note.

Contracts in Switzerland are for temporary employment with 4 week notice during probation.

[alreadypacked]

If he has signed a contract, then they can bill him for the costs. However, he is highly likely to be on a probationary period with one month's or even one week's notice. If he's silly enough to accept the counter offer (see DodgyAgent's post), then he should give immediate notice to his new employer. They may let him just go; they could require him to work two weeks (or bill him for the costs if he doesn't). Swiss law is less heavily weighted towards the employee than UK law.

And that uses up DA's sensible post quota of this year.

If they bill him and he does not pay, there will be a debit registered against his name. This may cause problems if he decided to go to Switzerland at a later date. Unable to rent an apartment etc. People have been stopped at the border and asked/forced to pay years old parking tickets. Swiss don't forget.

[DodgyAgent]

If he has signed a contract, then they can bill him for the costs. However, he is highly likely to be on a probationary period with one month's or even one week's notice. If he's silly enough to accept the counter offer (see DodgyAgent's post), then he should give immediate notice to his new employer. They may let him just go; they could require him to work two weeks (or bill him for the costs if he doesn't). Swiss law is less heavily weighted towards the employee than UK law.

And that uses up DA's sensible post quota of this year.

Drivel it is from now on

[MrMarkyMark]

FTFY

He should not accept a counter offer, as it will mean the agent will not earn his lucrative commission

[NotAllThere]

Hi need a bit of advice
My brother accepted a role in Switzerland and all background screening work permit etc is complete he is joining in two wks time
He have resign from his current role but the company comeback and offered a very good package

if he say no to Swiss company they can charge him for wasting their time ?
as they have arrange interviews and work permit and accommodation
Everything's is ready for him to join

The role in Swiss is with a bank and is via an agency who will be the employer

Thanks

If he has signed a contract, then they can bill him for the costs. However, he is highly likely to be on a probationary period with one month's or even one week's notice. If he's silly enough to accept the counter offer (see DodgyAgent's post), then he should give immediate notice to his new employer. They may let him just go; they could require him to work two weeks (or bill him for the costs if he doesn't). Swiss law is less heavily weighted towards the employee than UK law.

He should not accept a counter offer. Most who do end up leaving anyway and to increase pay or give promotion just because someone is leaving is not a good basis of employment. The employer will resent the blackmail and the employee will often find continuing not up to expectations.

And that uses up DA's sensible post quota of this year.

[vetran]

He should not accept a counter offer. Most who do end up leaving anyway and to increase pay or give promotion just because someone is leaving is not a good basis of employment. The employer will resent the blackmail and the employee will often find continuing not up to expectations.

Indeed in these circumstances I tend to say if you think I was worth that you should have been paying me it.

I sit through the annual review process, get told how good I am and despite being the go to guy when no one else can do it then got told I should do XYZ to improve. Then I get the annual excuse for not giving me a raise.

If that happens its time to get out! Don't look back

[DodgyAgent]

He should not accept a counter offer. Most who do end up leaving anyway and to increase pay or give promotion just because someone is leaving is not a good basis of employment. The employer will resent the blackmail and the employee will often find continuing not up to expectations.

[venaticorielrose]

Thanks you are spot on his English is worse than mine
Sorry I am trying to type this on a phone and auto correct feature along with my poor linguistics skills are to blame

[d000hg]

Sounds like your brother needs a substitute for his swiss roll. I'd go with a nice battenburg. It'll appeal to the same demographic.

Or:

[WTFH]

I think they will track him down, empty his pockets and bump him off.

HTH.

Swiss banks are very good at losing/hiding/burying stuff.
Got some art stolen by the Nazis? Swiss bank.
Want to hide something? Swiss bank.




To the OP, it's up to you your brother, but if you're he's a contractor and wants to contract in the future, playing games with clients is not a great idea, particularly after they have invested time and money in getting you him in place.


He needs to check his contract as to what it says, also if they paid for any of his travel/expenses for him to just completely waste their time, he might want to consider what to do there.




...or as many may tell you on here, it's the Swiss bank's tough luck.




I guess it depends on your his ethics.

[barrydidit]

Sounds like your brother needs a substitute for his swiss roll. I'd go with a nice battenburg. It'll appeal to the same demographic.

[d000hg]

I do like a swiss roll.